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Doog
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Joined: Sep. 17 2007
From: Tennessee
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RE: 1942 Barbero (in reply to tk)
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ORIGINAL: tk Sig, if you like guitars like the one you described, the closest you can get to it is the Domingo Esteso Reedition. GSI has one for sale $14K ( ) but I can tell you that at one point I owned a Domingo Esteso Reedition and it was as you described i.e. light weight, percussive, easy to play, short sustain, narrow neck... TK I also owned an 'Esteso-Re-edicion" and quite honestly was totally unimpressed by it. It was light and had easy playability, but I could not stand the sounds that came out of it. I realize that the reaction to a guitars "voice" is very subjective and what I do not care for may delight someone else. I have owned and played other Condes and I know that they are very popular with a large guitar playing segment, but I simply do not care for the way they sound. I have a '69 Ramirez cedar top that plays circles around any Conde. I also traded an A-26 [Conde] for a John Ray blanca which has proven to be a delightful little guitar. It is a "feather" [2.1Kg], very comfortable to hold and excellent has playability. It is not a 'canon' - most suitable to intimate surroundings. sig, Good luck in your search for a guitar that totally delights you. Personally, I would not worry much about pegs vs machines and 'authenticity'. My '69 Ramirez was very authentic and came with pegs which proved to be a royal pain ... quite literally! I found myself playing it less and less because it hurt my left wrist to do so [arthritis]. Also, fine-tuning it was for me a combination of luck and patience. Happily, G.V. Rubio came to my rescue and did a flawless conversion to machines that another luthier assumed was its original condition. Doog
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Date Dec. 14 2007 10:33:15
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tk
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RE: 1942 Barbero (in reply to Doog)
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Doog, I couldn't agree more with your statement. Currently, I do not own any conde or from the conde family. I use to own 2. Eventually, I realized that my taste was more Devoe and Reyes type guitars which I describe them as "Lyrical and Musical with strong trebles. Sig, If you like Pegs, you should consider Devoe. He excels in Pegs. I own one machine and one peg Devoes, the pegs has a dryer sound and is as easy as the machine head to tune. About the Domingo Esteso Reedition, I was trying to describe the feeling rather than the sound. Based on Sig's describtion, I thought that the "Esteso" had the same characteristics. But for the sound, I agree, it is not a Barbero sound. TK
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Date Dec. 15 2007 2:59:50
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Doog
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RE: 1942 Barbero (in reply to tk)
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Hey 'tk', I really, really agree with you about DeVoe's guitars. I have one of his negras and it is the sweetest instrument. Extremely comfortable just to hold and with excellent playability and a perfect delight to play ... as you say, "Lyrical and Musical"! tk wrote: "About the Domingo Esteso Reedition, I was trying to describe the feeling rather than the sound. Based on Sig's describtion, I thought that the "Esteso" had the same characteristics. But for the sound, I agree, it is not a Barbero sound." Yes, I see what you mean. sif, Pegs or no pegs you may want to give DeVoe's guitars a serious look;however, they will not sound like a '42 Barbero. Incidentally, converting my '69 Ramirez from pegs to machines had absolutely no ill effects on the guitar, its playability, or the quality of the sound which was unchanged - as magnificent as ever. I mention this because some people seem to endorse the myth that such conversions can have a bad effect on a guitar. Doog
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Date Dec. 15 2007 13:32:03
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