Miguel De Maria a quic question please

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Florian

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From: Adelaide/Australia

Miguel De Maria a quic question please

I recall you you saying something about some guitarist playing picado without resting his thumb on on the 6th string.

I been trying this a litlle lately and i swear that my picados seam faster and cleaner do you remember that post you made ?

I am playing around with the idea of doing all my picados this way , any disadvantages that you know off about this technique what was the conclusion to your post ?

I think it was a teacher in Spain that was telling you about this ? what was his name ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2004 0:43:32

Miguel de Maria

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RE: Miguel De Maria a quic question ... (in reply to Florian)

Tino Van der Smaan taught me this, he learned it from Nino de Pura. Basically the idea is to keep the wrist "flat", the forearm and wrist top being in the same plane. The idea is to "caress" the guitar with the side of the thumb, instead of pushing the strings down three inches with it. You move straight up and down vertically to change strings. The advantages are similiar to the Paco/Vicente picado, the strength and having the tendons not bent at the wrist. One problem is that it's kind of difficult to shift vertically with control, and I gave this method up after a few months.

Another problem that people have with resting the thumb is they get too aggressive and gauge their position with their thumb rather than with their fingers. Good picado is an interaction between the fingers and the strings and has little or nothing to do with "bracing" the thumb. That is my opinion at least.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2004 17:06:10

Florian

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RE: Miguel De Maria a quic question ... (in reply to Florian)

I must say , I am at a very confused crossroad, id be playing a falseta and in my head theres things going on " do it that way ,no no do it the other way" this goes on till right before i get to the place that requires picado.

I need to figure out what one and stick to it. Your are right it dosent feel very safe playing it without the thumb resting on the 6th, eg . if you need to start a scale from the 1st string, is kind of anyone's gues wheather you hitt it or not, mibe that changes after you are used to it ?

It works perfect if you play with another guitarist because than you dont have to worry about rythm you can just preapare for the scale but by yourself if you have to play rythm than jump into this scale i can see it as beeing very scary.

Btw : How do you play your picados ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2004 11:05:43

Miguel de Maria

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RE: Miguel De Maria a quic question ... (in reply to Florian)

Florian,
I think the Nino de Pura method is valid, it just takes time to get comfortable with it. There are dozens of different ways to accomplish the same result, you just have to do it enough that it's automatic. That being said, some things work better for some people so it's not bad to experiment.

I have two ways to play picado. Both of them, I touch the bass strings, usually the sixth. One is rather straight fingers, the other I flatten the wrist out and it looks more tirando. When I play with straight fingers I use the left edge of the nail, the other it's more the tip. I didn't intend to have two ways but as I still experiment sometimes this second one just evolved. Both involve significant shifts from arpeggio form.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2004 20:56:19