Juan Martin/Radio Scotland

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Donald

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Juan Martin/Radio Scotland

This Tuesday Mary Ann Kennedy played Rumba Nostalgilica from Juan Martin' cd, Rumbas Originales. This was quite good unlike fusion rumbas. Juan Martin is to appear on the programme ,Global Gathering, next Tuesday probably with an interview as well as a performance. The previous week a track, Cuba y espana, from the same album was played which was n't nearly so good. Donald

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Zorro02

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Donald)

Hi Donald,
What exactly is your point?
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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 10 2007 22:33:32

Ron.M

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Zorro02)

quote:

What exactly is your point?

Hi Zorro,
Sorry to butt in....but I think Donald's post was just to alert listeners in Scotland that there is a programme coming up that they might want to tune into.
Having anything at all related to Flamenco is very unusual here.
So I guess that was his point.

cheers,

Ron

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 10 2007 22:50:41

JBASHORUN

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Zorro02)

quote:

What exactly is your point?

I think Donald is trying to say that he liked the "Rumba Nostalgica" song by JM. Thats fair enough. When I first got into Flamenco, I thought it was OK too. It reminded me a bit of PDL's "Rio Ancho", but IMHO the latter is MUCH better.

Anyway... PUBLICLY ADMITTING to actually LIKING Juan Martin is a bit of an invitation for a stoning on this forum (just something to bear in mind, Donald

).

But lets hope the folk that listen to Radio Scotland are none the wiser. I think Ron listens to Radio 4 instead...

Jb

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 10 2007 22:54:34

Adam

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Donald)

*hoping to avoid the stoning here

*

is this the same "rumba nostalgica" as on vol. 2 of his "solos flamencos" disc? i think that one's rather pretty...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 11 2007 1:24:57

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 11 2007 8:19:41

wiseguy493

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Donald)

I've never quite understood the hostility many players have against Juan Martin, anyone care to elaborate? LOL

I think his method books are terrible, and his solo books almost useless to any but the absolute beginner, but I think some of the more advanced pieces in his solo books are worth learning (even though the advanced player that would benefit from them most would already know more advanced material too...)

I think he's a pretty good player

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 11 2007 15:41:36

krichards

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to JBASHORUN)

I love Juan Martin
I repeat that........I love Juan Martin!

I bought a record in 1977 ish which was a revelation for me and my intro to flamenco (I was struggling to learn classical at the time)

and I've seen him perform a number of times and enjoyed every moment. There's not a lot of Flemenco here in North Yorkshire so maybe you know better.

In which case, enlighten me. Where am i going to see/hear anything better in the north of England??

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 11 2007 18:59:38

JBASHORUN

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Donald)

quote:

enlighten me. Where am i going to see/hear anything better in the north of England??

KRichards, if Gerardo Nunez ever does a show up North, you should go to it. even if you have to travel a bit to get there. If you really love Flamenco it would be worth the journey.

Anyway, there are always DVDs and CDs for those of us who can't make it to the live venues.

But you're right- JM is not so bad compared to some...

Jb

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 11 2007 19:15:32

Donald

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Donald)

I 've seen Juan Martin live before 3 years ago and his performance was good. I am aware that he faces criticism from performers and guitarists at various levels . The main point is that he and Paco Pena have taken the trouble to currently tour outside London. This is someting the heroes of the jumped up people who can't be bothered putting up a semblance of their real names can be bothered with.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 11 2007 22:55:18

JBASHORUN

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Donald)

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The main point is that he and Paco Pena have taken the trouble to currently tour outside London. This is someting the heroes of the jumped up people who can't be bothered putting up a semblance of their real names can be bothered with.

...Can't be bothered puting up a semblance of thier real names? what does that mean?

Juan has done a lot to promote and popularize Flamenco outside Spain. That is NOT in doubt, and he gets due respect for that.

Jb

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 11 2007 23:19:08

guitarbuddha

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Donald)

Kylie Minogue ROCKS. She tours every year and me and my mum love her concerts .Not like that Aretha Franklin who thinks she's too good to play in Britain and who's fans think that they are so cool. How dare they condescend to me when I know music at least as well as them.

So there..

Davina (8).

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 12 2007 3:04:59

JBASHORUN

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Donald)

Were you being sarcastic, GuitarBuddha? Gerardo Nunez DOES tour in Britain, and so do some of the other guitarists. But the home of Flamenco is in Spain, and thats where its cultural heart is. Besides, Flamenco is not mainstream music like Kylie Minogue, and so you can't expect Flamenco artists to travel to venues in the middle of nowhere and just HOPE someone will trun up to watch them play...

Jb

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 12 2007 8:00:55

JBASHORUN

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Donald)

Oh, I see... Davina, aged 8. I get you now...

Jb

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 12 2007 8:15:23

krichards

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to JBASHORUN)

We don't expect anyone to travel to venues in the 'middle of nowhere'. But we are delighted when they do.
And Donald is right to make the point that Paco Pena and Juan Martin are two of the very few who do this. Thats why we like them so much.

Anyway, I'm visiting Malaga and Cordoba (Paco Pena's hometown...there's irony for you) in October.

What can i hope to see there??

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 12 2007 13:59:38

Stu

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to krichards)

ha ha ha "Scotland"

Anyways, guitarbuddah are you saying 'Kylie' is 'Juan Martin' and 'Aretha Franklin' is.... say... 'Gerardo Nunez'

or am I missing something?

Stu

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 12 2007 15:18:22

guitarbuddha

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RE: Juan Martin/Radio Scotland (in reply to Stu)

Yes Manzmann I was trying to be funny and ..... failing as usual.

I do have the utmost respect for Paco Pena thought.

The most Jerez style thing about Martin is his teeth, I think he and Graf Martinez stole them from the same stable.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 12 2007 16:14:19