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TANúñez

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The best child prodigy? 
Of all the child prodigies, Jeronimo, Rayito, Javier Conde, just to name a few, who do you guy's think is/was the best?

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RE: The best child prodigy? (in reply to TANúñez) 
Paco de Lucia

i think its important to make their own mark, compose stuff not just playing the sabicas/PDL/Serranito standards

Jeronimo made his own cd, Javier has recorded "standards" maybe his got stuff i havent heard yet.

i say PDL even thouhg he´s yesterdays child prodigy. Thecnicaly i think the kids today are better than he was at an early age

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RE: The best child prodigy? (in reply to duende) 
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Paco de Lucia

i think its important to make their own mark, compose stuff not just playing the sabicas/PDL/Serranito standards


Agreed but I'm sure when Paco was a kid, he wasn't playing "his own stuff". I'm sure he played a lot of Ramon Montoya & Niño Ricardo.

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Florian

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RE: The best child prodigy? (in reply to Guest) 
I agree with you but also keep in mind that after Paco and everoyne else, is alot harder for us to be impressed by the technique alone this days.

noone will ever standout on his own that far from the pack based on technique alone anymore, having ligtning fast picado and flowless compas is the minimum requirement for that level this days. ( a huge reason of why Paco stood out so much was also his technique which was so infront of everyone else those days)

its all about the music, i am gonna say noone has influenced the music after Paco as much as Vicente has this last ten- fiteen years, when it comes to originality and musicality and personality, even thow hes not exactly a child protogy to my knolodge.

I must say when i saw Jeronimo as a litlle kid on a old vhs video i had, i was blown away and i was expecting him to be the NAME in flamenco guitar, but i havent really felled like he stands out that much from the pack. (even tho hes brilliant in his own right).

than i gues its very hard for any child protogy to live up to our most of the time unrealistic expectations.

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RE: The best child prodigy? (in reply to Guest) 
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Paco. He was the first and there is something about being the first even if following generations surpass you.

Paco has the most well rounded technique.

Jeronimo's style doesn't affect me the way Paco's does. Musically...well who cares if you are a prodigy if your music is not the best. I do really like some of Jeronimo's stuff though.


Are you sure Paco was the first? Niño Ricardo may have been a child prodigy. Maybe others before him. I don't think Paco was the first. I think Paco was the first to take the flamenco guitar to a whole other level but this wasn't until his was a little older.

I don't think your music has to be the best in order to be a great child prodigy. I'm not sure how I feel yet about Javier Conde. He's a fantastic guitarista but all I've heard is him playing other peoples music.

I like Jeronimo because he has his own sound or style. Whether your listening to a young or older Jero, you know it's Jero.

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RE: The best child prodigy? (in reply to TANúñez) 
Having just read the disputes on best child prodigy, I wonder how we dare compare teenage Paco to all the others. Conde and Jeronimo have astonishing technique but fail to take it any furtherthan he did, whereas Paco in his teens played Nino Ricardo stuff like a monster from outerspace!No one had ever heard all those traditional falsetas executed with such accuracy, speed and aggressiveness. Besides, no one of all these great young guitarists even manages to play Paco's old stuff (we all try!) as magical as he did. Don't go searching in vain, Paco is an once in a century phenomenon!
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RE: The best child prodigy? (in reply to TANúñez) 
Farruiquito was performing from a very early age, as do many flamenco performers. Most I know started off very young in their professional careers. I recently saw Alba Heredía perform and then at the after show party she went from playing on the floor with her dolls to dancing with Juan Andres Maya and others till 6 am. I toured the Us with a group of flamencos aged from 14 to 18, when I first saw them perform some of tehm could not even touch the floor with their feet when they played the cajón. Emilio Maya was working professionally from aged 8 as was Ana Calí and Fuensanta. I think child performers are the norm in Flamenco, not that unusual.

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ORIGINAL: romerito

How old is ALBA HEREDIA?



She's 12, you can see a picture of her at http://www.deflamenco.com/actuaciones/furiamaya/index070416.jsp
when she was 6 with Marote.

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