servicing machine heads

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Stu

Posts: 2537
Joined: Jan. 30 2007
From: London (the South of it), England

servicing machine heads

Hey,
One of my machine heads (B string) has recently become very stiff. after changing my strings yesterday I noticed that with the string off it was as smooth/loose as the others and only stiffened up again once the string was more or less in tune. I added a tiny drop of oil to the thread on the screw. but still seems stiff. could there be a prob with the mechanics inside the plastic part. And if so what can be done??
(I'm no luthier so I hope Ive used the right words for the right parts.)

thanks
stu

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 29 2007 12:06:51

jshelton5040

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RE: servicing machine heads (in reply to Stu)

A couple of questions...Are these low end machine heads? How long have you owned the guitar? Did the stiffness come about suddenly or over a period of time?

Normally it's easiest to replace low end machines if they have a problem. On better quality machines what normally causes sudden stiffness (binding) is a cracked roller. Inspect the plastic on the roller giving you trouble and see if there isn't a crack in it. If there is you'll need to remove the machines and try to find a replacement roller. Some music stores have them and most luthiers. Be aware that they come in at least 2 different diameters and the end which connects to the gear has several configurations (square, splined, hexagonal, etc.) and the screws are not all the same size.

Good luck,
John Shelton

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 30 2007 22:56:13

Stu

Posts: 2537
Joined: Jan. 30 2007
From: London (the South of it), England

RE: servicing machine heads (in reply to Stu)

thanks john,
I'll follow up those tips.

To answer your questions...

1. I have owned the guitar (Alhambra 7fs) for about three years.

2. I would guess that they are low end machine heads, if by that you mean at the bottom end of the price/quality range. but not sure.

3. The stiffness did come about rather suddenly.

thanks
stu

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 1 2007 12:31:38

jshelton5040

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RE: servicing machine heads (in reply to Stu)

Of course a cracked roller is not the only possible cause of binding. It could be simple wear, loose screw or even be related to the wood in the headstock (not likely) or something else. Measure the distance center to center on the top of the posts (part holding the button and worm gear). If your machines are standard it should be 35 mm. You can order new machines online at places like stewmac.com for about any amount you want to spend. It requires a small screwdriver and no skill to replace them. If they are still binding after replacement take the guitar to a luthier. There are some tricks to making machines work smoothly like wrapping teflon tape around the ends of the roller where it contacts the wood of the headstock. You might try this if can't find a luthier.

John Shelton

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 1 2007 14:24:27

Stu

Posts: 2537
Joined: Jan. 30 2007
From: London (the South of it), England

RE: servicing machine heads (in reply to Stu)

hi john,
thanks for your tips but, as if by magic, the afore mentioned machine head seems to be fixed. I think it just needed a little oil. thanks anyways.

Stu

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 4 2007 15:15:26