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Phrygian mode chords
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Ricardo
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 RE: Phrygian mode chords (in reply to DavidT)
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Is there such a thing E minor in Phrygian mode?
It is possible, but your other minor chords won't always work. Best thing for you would be to study a book with modes and scales if you are that concerned. The best thing for you is to understand how a chord scale is constructed.
First know how to spell a scale. For example C major is CDEFGAB. E phrygian has the same notes, but starts on E:
EFGABCD. OK, the chords that are in the key of C major or Aminor, are the same as E phrygian, because they are made up of the same notes. How do you make chords? Stack in 3rds, then decide if the chords are major, minor, diminished, augmented, etc.
EGB=Em
FAC=F
GBD=G
ACE=Am
BDF=Bdim
CEG=C
DFA=Dm
Those are 7 chords based on E phrygian scale. But you need to understand that Flamenco uses SPANISH phrygian scale, a little different than natural phrygian. Spanish phrygian I think of as a mix of phrygian Dominant, and the above natural phrygian.
E Phrygian dominant=EFG#ABCD. So combine the chords formed by that scale and the one above, and you see some other chords available to use for a flamenco form in "spanish phrygian" mode.
EG#B=E
Fmaj, same
G#dim
Am, same
Bdim, same
C+, augmented chord
Dm, same.
So you get a nice mix of chords available in spanish phrygian, with E major as tonic. There are occasions where you will hear E minor chord used, but more to exploit the other chords like F major or G major, depending on the melody. But resolution and finality has to be E major.
Notice Gm chord is not in the key or scale at all, because you need Bb. Fminor needs Ab, but Theoretically you can use the sound of that chord by spelling it with G# (FG#C). It does not resolve well relative to the other chords, and is not used often in flamenco.
Ricardo
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Date Apr. 17 2007 20:00:24
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Ricardo
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RE: Phrygian mode chords (in reply to edgar884)
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Flamencos way of saying we are in F# Phrygian when they are actually in D major just confuses things in my opinion.
Well, non flamenco pieces of music, at least for guitar, would commonly be "in the key of" D major or B minor. In the Key of Bminor, a song can move into other places, such as D major, or mix scales of B aeolian or B harmonic minor, or melodic minor, depending on the harmony. BUT in flamenco it is a similar thing, just the TONIC or place of rest is F#. It makes sense when you understand traditional modal music, something that should be 'in the key of F# phrygian" should not have any chords, only F# drone. But Flamenco is a bit of an Eastern modal and Western tonal hybrid, and allows harmonies to pull to other tonalities. You can be in D major or Bminor for a while. But the BIG picture, the overall piece is "in the key of" F# phrygian. Make any sense?
Example, Taranta is in F# phrygian, but the cante, the letra starts off by modulating to D major. Actually each chord is "tonicized" by V7-I type chord movements. Very western. But the final resolution is always G7-F#. That is eastern flavor, the whole point of the chord movement. Don't confuse "modulation" with what key you understand the whole form to be "in".
It is hard for Westerners to hear since they are so used to minor or major key type tonalities.
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Date Apr. 18 2007 3:51:57
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