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Paco's new guitar...same old one??
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Ricardo
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Paco's new guitar...same old one??
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Ok, his old redish guitar with the scratch, notice the pattern on the sides above the neck. From left to right you see diagonal line pattern, two light lines, one black line stand out. http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/images/local/vmgartists/bf2bde3c-a0dc-4f2a-afa3-2d78e53e9756.jpg So I always assumed that he got the scratch fixed and the top re stained (more orange around 1997) and re finished since I recognize the exact same grain pattern on the sides, same rosette. http://www.omni.lt/includes/img/330_361438_paco.jpg Here is the guitar I saw on saturday, natural finish, but same rosette/grain pattern on the sides! http://www.periodistadigital.com/imgs/efep/20070211/152093w.jpg I know these pics are not so great, but I saw the difference in color with my own eyes. So, my question is, is this the SAME guitar? I mean could the pattern on sides be litterally identical on two different guitars? Assuming it IS the same guitar, how difficult is it to RE STAIN a guitar top like that... and why would he do it for cryn out loud??? Wouldn't it involve sanding off a significant amount of wood from the top, changing the sound? Ricardo
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Date Feb. 13 2007 20:40:59
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Ricardo
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RE: Paco's new guitar...same old one?? (in reply to Ricardo)
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Cool interesting info about changing color if there is a clear coat put on first. I thought the stain goes right on the bare wood first, like Tom was saying. OK, this rosette above, the Felipe V is NOT the exact same as Paco's. I have this Flamenco world Calendar still saved from 2006 with Paco on the cover, extreme close up, and you can see the rosete real clear. http://www.flamenco-world.com/magazine/fotos/calendario2006/indice07122005.htm That pic is small, but the actual pic on the calendar is like 5-6 inches high. It IS a similar design, but the outer ring the light and red are longer. The red diamonds inside, are longer too. So a similar design, but not the same. However, it is absolutely true this is NOT the same rosette on the Orange guitar he used 3 years ago. The outside rings are similar, but the inside again totally different design, larger circular shapes, not linked diamonds. But man, I am not seeing that grain pattern as "similar", it looks Identical to me. If it was straight grain, I would admit, but it is on the same diagonal, with the same sequence of light and dark lines, which should not happen in nature to different pieces of wood. Could it be, he changed the top, or changed the rosette too? Yeah, that seems crazy. Like it might as well be a new guitar. Maybe he IS superstitious. Last time he used a different guitar live, it "dissappeared"! LOL. So he changed the top, but kept the back and sides?? maybe it cracked or something who knows. Maybe the guy who was suposed refinish, messed it up and thought he would not notice if he changed the top all together?? Nah. I dont' know man, it is weird, because I really think it is the same side wood. And remember when we first saw the guitar, Flamencoguru asked Juan Estrada who said it was the "same guitar as always, he had it touched up".
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Date Feb. 14 2007 18:11:59
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