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Personally, I feel that flamenco is divided up into a "trinity" of cante, baile and toque and that the importance is divided equally amongst the three.
but its just an opinion.
Jb
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¡Si esto no está en compas, esto no es el Flamenco!
RE: What is the essence of flamenco? (in reply to Doitsujin)
The Force.
Tonight I opended up a package of Jamon Serrano I bought from La Tienda. It tasted like the the plastic package it came in. I then drank an entire bottle of manzinilla in celebration of the birth of our lord. (although it was the la gitana feria bottle)
RE: What is the essence of flamenco? (in reply to JasonM)
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What is the essence of flamenco?
sorry to get all serious on you guys now I know you are all just kidding but i wish you were more serious... like me sometimes
Imo Cante, Toque, Dance are just tools used to deliver flamenco, if it wasent those tools it would be something else ( I am getting all deep on your ass now hehe)
Honesty is the essence of flamenco
For example in some other style someone might say " It hurts", yet you look at theyr face and u dont see expression on theyr face that you would expect someone who is hurting to have on theyr face or even worse he/she is trying to look sexy while singing it or whatever, not to mention it sounds musically estetic (eg, perfect estetinc pleasing to the ear tone ) but pain is never pretty and esteticly sounding and never light. nobody screams from pain in Key.
The essence of flamenco is the Honesty in the way it deals with delivering emotions, its not about sounding pretty its about making the other guy feel the emotion you trying to deliver. this is where the "tools" come in Guitar, Song, Dance, Poem whatever.
the essence , is not a handmade instrument, or a chord or a falseta those are just tools.
flamenco is about telling any story about anything, but delivering in such honest manner that the listeners have no choice but be taken wherever the story goes, if its ugly or dark then u hear it with more then just your ears, if its happy you fell it in your heart as well as hear it with your ears.
Everything is the essence of flamenco and nothing exclusivly.
ps. dont ask me to clarifie anything because even i am not sure what i said but i belive in it 100 %
RE: What is the essence of flamenco? (in reply to JasonM)
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Tonight I opended up a package of Jamon Serrano I bought from La Tienda. It tasted like the the plastic package it came in.
Yes, I found the same thing with Jamon, although mine was a premium packet by Sanchez Romero Carvajal. I think if you buy the fresh stuff (ie. a whole leg of jamon and cut it yourself) then it might be better, but the small plastic packets aren't as good IMO.
Jb
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¡Si esto no está en compas, esto no es el Flamenco!
RE: What is the essence of flamenco? (in reply to Florian)
I think virtually all serious music has to do with moving of emotions. Pop songs do that as well.
Flamenco is in a class of it's own (to me anyway) in the way that there is extreme rawness at one end and extreme vituosity at the other, both going together to make the whole. By virtuosity, I don't just mean players like Paco and Tomatito etc, but players like Niño Jero and Diego Amaya and others too... Flamenco guitar to me is all about spot-on timing...great dynamics...extreme slickness in execution of the very simplest of things... inventive phrasing... finding just "the" sweet spot in a chord and the most appropriate tone and voicing for that chord on the guitar... tasteful juxtaposition of beautiful warm, sweet chords with sour/dissonant ones to make your spirit soar and crash and soar again.. playing even a single-note line in a way that it doesn't sound bare, but rich and full and emotionally charged...
Oh yeah...and keeping compás too..
cheers
Ron
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A good guitar might be a good guitar But it takes a woman to break your heart
RE: What is the essence of flamenco? (in reply to sonikete)
Well, the question from me was more intended like; which of these, in your opinion, is the only one flamenco couldnt exist without?
When it comes to what your personal relationship is to flamenco, then everyone probably have a different answer, but this thread started because ricardo asked me to see if it was right that most foreigners gets into guitar first rather than cante.
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