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NEW POLL-Do you think people are too rough on Juan Martin?
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NEW POLL-Do you think people are too rough on Juan Martin?
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(last vote on : Feb. 28 2008 11:10:04)
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RE: NEW POLL-Do you think people are... (in reply to el ted)
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How the opinion of a few people gonna affect this website, there over 1000 members here. Besides, as you can see the poll is telling us that people in the forum think that maybe people are being too ruff on jm.
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Date Oct. 19 2006 11:16:43
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Florian
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RE: NEW POLL-Do you think people are... (in reply to el ted)
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el ted i agree with you , perhaps we should leave Juan alone , i mean we have all said enough, but i am not sure why u think that saying we dont like juans playing or whatever will influence the reputation of this foro ? we are 1680 of the cd buying , dvds/books buying public, i am not sure why u think that expressing the opinion about one of them will reflect badly on us. is like telling 200000 voters they voted for the wrong president, when the majority votes , there is no wrong decision , is the say of the people. and btw, Juan has his supporters as you can see, but u cant stop the free will of people and they right to like what they like and dont like what they dont like, or control the fact that they wanna express that, he wanted to be in the public eye, great, brilliant we are the public, and we are not all pollitically correct and fair, we are what we are , as fair as any public can be, him and his die hard fans need to deal with it and accept it or if the pressure is too much, get out of the public eye. Like it or not we are the public, we dont speak for all of it but we speak for some of it, we not here to protect juans reputation, if he wants to put cds out the he should be prepared to take in the criticism as well as the praizes from the public, simple as that.
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Date Oct. 19 2006 16:38:59
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RE: NEW POLL-Do you think people are... (in reply to veet)
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C,mon el ted, a the end of the day its only opions. Thats what a forum does, put discussions on the table and everyone can have their say. The fact is juan is very sucessful and no one can take that away from him no matter how much critism he cops. sure hes really copped a beuty in that other thread, but for every critism he got he also had someone to defend him.
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Date Oct. 20 2006 0:36:11
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Florian
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RE: NEW POLL-Do you think people are... (in reply to koella)
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PacoPaella U got me courious now, who exactly do you think that has dedicated they'r life to destroing JMs reputation ? and who says u have to be an actor to be able to say you dont like a movie. personally i think its really silly insulting forum member possible friends who you see everyday here (who might have possible helped you in the past or could do so in the future) who are expressing theyr opinions over some guy youl never meet or even gives a crap that you exist or even knows this conversation is going on. Give me a brake, you dont like everey single thing you see and hear, why is it so hard to belive that others dont either ? its a discussion forum. Its like me sitting and having a beer with you, i tell you i dont like TOm Cruise as an actor and you say' Shut up , youre just a try hard, when you can act like him then criticize him". U know i didnt start this thread and i wasent even plannig on getting involved in it (read above) but when i see people putting other forum memebers down only because they expressing theyr opinion...I cant shut up. Belive me any one who knows .. knows if they dont say anything is not because they dont know or dont think it but is because theyr beeing diplomatic and cant be botherd having this argument all the time. Every single flamenco dancer guitarist singer here or from Spain i talk to says the same thing. the only ones that dont know is those who dont network with other flamencos outside the internet and only play guitar or the ones that are in some remote place in the world here the only cds u can buy in the stores is Juan. Or they are too old and refuse to look at the new stuff and Juan makes them feel like they understand it. certanly not in Spain and certanly not in any Flamenco dance school whos teacher has been to spain in the last 20 years. so u are fighting a losing batlle because besides on the internet forums like this the feeling is exactly the same. he makes good beginner dvds and books thats about it. since u ask.. no i dont think i am a better guitarist but i do have eyes and ears, i respect flamenco , Juan is not flamenco is one of the people in it not necesarly the most talented one but one who has made a huge name for himself trough beginner books, thats it. If it wasent Juan there could have been a million other guitarists. hes just the first one that did the best beginner book first. quote:
i havent seen many videos here that could technically challenge the skills of Martin willing to put your money where your mouth is ? lets put an end to this once and far all i dont think his technique is that amazing but its eazy make it seem so with eazy music, pick any Juan Martin Solo give me the tab, and i will play it for you exactly as he does ( ofcourse minus the 20000 dollar guitar and studios sound he has at his disposal), i mean it. mibe after that I can get me statue in Poland and i am not even that good...do it, it might seam like a an ambitious statment but its not really and i wouldnt make it if i didnt think i was capable of doing it, i may be hot bloded but i am not stupid. You see a couple of videos people make in theyr pijamas at 3 am in the morning in theyr living room when they just really developing ideas before they go to bed and think that you know what they can and cant do ? and when i do i want you to say it with me " Every forum member here has to right to express they'r view on any cd they purchase with out me trowing theyr own abilities back in theyr own face and making them feel unwordy to do so everytime they do". wanna know who i respect ? i respect those arent techniaclly brilliant but have the balls to upload audios and videos here, and take criticizm and wanna improve, instead of those who are so paranoid of god forbid beeing criticised that they never ever upload, its a good way of mantaining status, and i respect all my fellow forum members who respect eachother i wouldnt put any of them down just because they say they dont like some guitarist i never meet. I dont care who Juan is , this forum members are in my life, are my friends and to me they come first , after that anyone else i dont know. They have encouraged me when i needed it , i encouraged them when they needed it, they helped me when i needed it etc. u wanna help flamenco ? this is flamenco right here, with your fellow forum members, not in some book u buy for 50 bucs. and heres the finall kicker if god forbid you got sick tomarow i can guarantee you that i would care more about it than Juan would, same goes for anyone else of you so dont be silly and insult eachother over the sake of some guitarist who dosent know u exist. god damn it beeing this right always makes me horny...back in 5 minutes.
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Date Oct. 20 2006 19:58:45
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RE: NEW POLL-Do you think people are... (in reply to Florian)
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LOL...dude, that has to be the longest post yourve done yetquote:
pick any Juan Martin Solo give me the tab, and i will play it for you exactly as he does ( ofcourse minus the 20000 dollar guitar and studios sound he has at his disposal), i mean it. mibe after that I can get me statue in Poland what about 'la feria'? Seriously though, even though its simple material you still have to put in the time to learn it. Why would you learne some crap you dont wanna play when you could be spending that time on a falsetta you like?
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Date Oct. 21 2006 2:09:49
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RE: NEW POLL-Do you think people are... (in reply to Florian)
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are you hearin' this tluckez (is that how u spell it), give the man his peace!!
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Date Oct. 21 2006 2:45:13
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