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Almansa guitars and the new 2006 Yamaha flamenco model
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labdal
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RE: Almansa guitars and the new 2006... (in reply to labdal)
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Hi, There is a bit of missunderstanding, the Yamaha produces 2 new 2006 models, one for Bossa Nova and the other one for flamenco. But, the difference between the models is that one is missing the golpeador and the rossete is different. They are the same in construction(same wood), the action is lower then in clasical models and the tone is more resonant and more "fat", as its stated in the catalog. I live in Croatia and within this new english written catalog the CG-171SF is positioned within the classical guitar section!!! This is kind of strange, as I had a chance to play the CG-171SF which is really a flamenco model, but unfortunatelly I dont like the tone. Altough, many people say that guitars with tops made of spruce intend to open up, I am not really sure about this issue as I never experienced it by myself. To me, the volume of the Yamaha is insufficient and something in my opinion is missing. Regards.
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Date Sep. 18 2006 12:45:58
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JBASHORUN
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RE: Almansa guitars and the new 2006... (in reply to labdal)
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Now, I am not sure are they in fact the same handcrafted models you were already talking about or this is something completely new?? When I was in the shop last week and asked the salesman for the price of the CGFL1 he replied its practically the same as CG-171SF, but they didn't have them in the shop, so I could not test them. I am not really sure now it this kind of a mix-up situation, as you stated the handcrafted Yamaha models are much expensive. Labdal, As far as I know, there has ALWAYS been a hand-made Yamaha Flamenco guitar, aswell as the cheaper factory made one. I can't quote a price for the hand made one, because it varies from place to place, but it IS more expensive than the factory made Yamaha as ALL hand made guitars are usually more expensive than factory made ones. I belive another member, "Skai" once tested the hand made Yamaha, but decided against buying it. The trouble is, why buy a hand made yamaha when you can buy a better hand made guitar from another luthier for the same price? BUT, if the shop you went to is selling the hand made yamaha for the same price as the factory made yamaha, then I would buy it... it may not quite be the best guitar, but for that price, it doesn't matter! Jb
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Date Sep. 18 2006 13:43:03
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JBASHORUN
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RE: Almansa guitars and the new 2006... (in reply to labdal)
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I found on several sites on the internet, one European webpage and the other one is Japanese, that the price of the CGBN1 and CGFL1 is around 430 Euro. For example, http://kakuyasunavi.com/pro3244f. The prices are in yens. This comes around 430 Euro when converted. It does not look that much for a handcrafted guitar as both guitars are listed under the handcrafted Yamaha guitar section?! How is this possible? Labdal, You are right... 430 Euros is very cheap for a hand made guitar. Perhaps too cheap. If I were you, I would contact Yamaha directly to find out if the guitar is really hand made. "hand made" or "hand crafted" is not always an accurate description, as it sometimes refers just to some parts of the guitar (rather than the whole guitar), or each piece is hand made by a different person in a production line. If the guitar IS truly hand made, then the price is good. BUT that doesn't necessarily mean it will sound good. You said you didn't like the sound of the CG171SF you tried, so I would suspect that you have high standards. I am fairly happy with my CG171SF, but only because it was fairly cheap. If the CGFL1 is handmade, I would assume that it is slightly better than the CG171SF. But the only way to tell would be to test one in person. If going by anyone else's opinions who has tested the guitar, do bear in mind that you didn't like the CG171SF, whereas most people feel it is a good guitar for the price. I suspect you are looking for a guitar that sounds "perfect", but don't want to pay high prices. Unfortunately, you might have to pay a bit more for a "pefect" sounding guitar. Good luck! Jb
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Date Sep. 18 2006 15:20:48
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