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Ron.M
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Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Scotland
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 RE: Holly **** (in reply to cneberg)
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Yeah,
Jose Feliciano is good musician and a good singer.
He's very professional and a great crowd pleaser.
I like his stuff... I have an album of his actually, and it's great.
However, his stuff has as little to do with actual Flamenco music, as does the music of Barry Manilow...
This is the curse of this music..
If you want to make any kind of real progress at it, you will have to study for years and years, perhaps even travelling to Andalucia, learning all sorts of things that are extremely difficult and "foreign"... that won't really entertain your friends and family, and will probably only get a lukewarm round of applause amongst the few actual Flamenco aficionados you actually meet, who will point out where you lost the rhythm or otherwise went wrong...but "good effort anyway!"... keep practising!
On the other hand, you can "alter" the music so that it has a much larger appeal, with a more familiar 4/4 beat, or even "free form", so you can play with other musicians and everybody, especially the audience, will catch the vibe and everyone will have a great night!
Folk will applaud and cheer and you will leave the stage a happy man and pick up a big cheque for your appearance and asked when you will be available again for another gig!
IMO folk study Flamenco music for a few years, gain some technique, realize the length of the road ahead and decide that it's too much to ask and "convert" their gained knowledge into their "own" music.
(Which to me anyway, always sounds pretty similar to every other Flamenco dropout's music, though spiced up with ouds, electric violins or sitars etc, to make it appear "new"  )
"..Leo Ferrero first took up the guitar at the age of 10...by the age of 12 he was awarded First Prize at the Viewmount High School, Ohio.. and later went on to study with the great guitar maestro Juan Vivamillo...
At the age of 18, he travelled to Spain, studying with the great Gypsy masters in the backs of their horse-drawn caravans, achieving the highest honour in all Flamenco of playing at a campfire Gypsy wedding...
Wishing to attain higher goals, Leo then travelled to Morocco where he lived in the desert with the Nomads, aquiring the intricate skills of rhythmic accompaniment, known to only a handful of outsiders...
On a chance meeting with visiting Indian Grand Master Sitarist, Banji Durvekki, who, on being taken by Leo's skills, invited him to study at his Himalayan retreat.
This album is a personal tribute to his masters and a unique event in musical history, containing a blend of all these influences that makes Leo Ferrero the only Artist in this field of music to this day..."
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Jose Feliciano is not a "Flamenco dropout" or anything.
He developed his own Latino based style ages ago, even before PdL, which is cool!
He's a nifty guitarist living in the W.Coast US.. and very professional and has taken a Sabicas composition and done it in his own style.
Which is great IMO.
I like it as a guitar solo...
But it has absolutely nothing at all to do with Flamenco.
But it does get a lot of dollar paying audience members saying .."Holy ****
...how does that guy do that stuff...incredible!"
Logically, the best music to play for financial and artistic success is "Fusion Flamenco"..
Flamenco "puro" is just for the nutters who got addicted!
cheers
Ron
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Date Jun. 25 2006 21:03:13
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Miguel de Maria
Posts: 3532
Joined: Oct. 20 2003
From: Phoenix, AZ
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RE: Holly **** (in reply to cneberg)
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I first heard Jose Feliciano on Mexican radio here in Phoenix. I was just listening one day and I heard this singer with a nice, catchy song, playing pretty cool, jazzy guitar. I caught the name of the singer, and got a compilation of his under the label "Platino". (get it, Latino and Platinum?)
The album has about 20 songs, including "Una Aventura Mas," the one that drew me to him. Most of them are bolero-type slow songs. He's essentially a pop singer who at least in this compilation uses a lot of Latin/Spanish folk elements (along with jazzy chords) to create his own style. He's a decent singer and obviously has incredible musical range. The guitar work on the album is great. He accompanies himself wonderfully and the solos are full of whimsy, invention, and flashy RH tricks.
I don't think he's ever claimed to be a flamenco guitarist, although he obviously has heard a little bit of it. He's just one of those guys with a gift for mimicry and uses it for flavor in his music. He's also a showman ala Sabicas, full of tricks. The album I have is cool because it has a lot of great standards, such as "Usted" and "Sabor a Mi." (It also has a Spanish version of Strangers in the Night!)
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