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metalhead

 

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Impetu question 

What's a good tempo to play this piece? It's more spaced out than other bulerias in a few places, which makes it seem slower than a different bulerias at the same tempo, hence the question.

It's a breath of fresh air from the other bulerias that I usually play, and literally too, there's more "air" between the notes. lol.
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RE: Impetu question (in reply to metalhead) 

Mario Esudero's original recording is very fast, around 292bpm. Paco's recording is a bit slower, closer to 280bpm. Both recordings have tempos that vary quite a bit, speeding up as the music heads towards big remates etc. - definitely before the click track era!

I think it does sound good at those fast tempos.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2026 3:09:27
 
metalhead

 

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RE: Impetu question (in reply to aloysius) 

Interesting. I have got it to 220 currently so it's a long way to go from here.

About the click part, how did these guys practice without a metronome in their bedroom? Just physical cues like tapping the foot?
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Stu

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RE: Impetu question (in reply to aloysius) 

Gerardo nunez had a version at the end of andando el tiempo. Not sure how fast it is in comparison
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Auda

 

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RE: Impetu question (in reply to metalhead) 

I wonder what Grisha's D'Addario performance clocks in at? Saw him perform it about a year ago and was prompted to learn it.
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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2026 16:23:13
 
metalhead

 

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RE: Impetu question (in reply to Stu) 

after looking at that insane Trafalgar video [posted by ricardo], it will be some crazy unfathomable number for sure lol.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2026 19:02:02
 
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RE: Impetu question (in reply to metalhead) 

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About the click part, how did these guys practice without a metronome in their bedroom? Just physical cues like tapping the foot?



Foot tap and intuition developed in the juerga when they had to play with palmas since childhood. However, Paco de Lucía kept one in his guitar case (we saw it in there back stage) and told Faru (dancer) to practice with one. Faru admitted he did work with it and without telling anybody, but Paco congratulated him for using it, meaning he was shocked that the subtly could be noticed. I would say it should be a modern concern (I imagined grandfather Farruco rolling in the grave for the case his grandson was schooled by a payo on compás) relatively speaking, since Vicente is the first to introduce the click track.

Check Nuñez version, it is not faster than Paco or others.

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