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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC
RE: Rosalia is absolute garbage (in reply to silddx)
this one year necro made me read through. There were a couple things I never wasted my time commenting on, but since I revisited, these are for estebanana.
1. Al Dimeola and Mclaughlin have at certain points in their career said the same as Pat Metheny about the "smooth jazz genre" and in particular its spear head Kenny G. That was long before the industry changed and a much bigger problem arrived with streaming changing the reality for young musicians that wanted to be professionals. But make no mistake the thing Pat Metheny was famous for complaining about was a common sentiment amongst the top dogs, but for whatever reason Metheny's comments were blown up and spread (he is more famous I guess as a popular jazz artist), and as someone said these comments were 20 years old during the Rosalia emergence.
2. the Ottmar Leibert Parallel had been discussed, but it seemed the issue of "false advertising" would have separated the cases between a Rosalia type and a Leibert, where one is using the moniker "flamenco" and the other should be considered "rumba" or otherwise not proper flamenco. I have made the case many times in the past that Ottmar has several flamenco Palos that he plays in concerts and has recorded, absolutely placing him in to the category of "flamenco" as much as as Pepe Romero or anyone that attempts to engage the public with one of our beloved traditional song forms. The case of Rosalia singing mediocrely or Ottmar playing his best beginner level Bulerias is EXACTLY parallel to the issue of tricking the layman audience that one is not only an "innovator" but a true "master" of the tradition with every right to move the goal posts forward. THAT is the sad reality of flamenco mixing with a more popular genre.
And now on to the new Rosalia, as I said in some off topic situation where Devilhand brought up her new album, it looks to me like that one hit orchestral piece is in reference to a famous bisexual night club in Germany where someone died of a drug overdose and perhaps the place was shut down? I just found it amusing how people on YouTube were trying to analyze the "deep" artistic sentiment about the video and music by Bjork, etc., hilarious to me anyway, when we consider she sang "mediocrely" of course", the mellizo letra discussed in the cante uploads, about the profound experience of two young boys learning they had just become orphans overnight....and no one is around to analyze that one.
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