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hxwhf72752003

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The secret about Diego del Morao’s... 

Hi everyone. I like Diego del Morao so much and I want to learn some skills of him. One of my friends told me that the Morao family has some secrets about strumming strings. I think it may be true. My friend Duan who is learning at AER(A guitar school in Seville where Nino de Pura teaches, and where the principal invites famous guitarists such as Diego del Morao and Juan Campllo to teach) told me that they had a lesson about Morao‘s strumming strings. I think Diego's strumming is more magical and impressive.
Does anyone know something about it?
Here is a video from Fernando del Morao‘s(Diego’s nephew)Instagram.
【【弗拉门戈吉他】Diego del Morao在家中演奏原创Alegrias】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1AH4y11757/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=543497b797fdd19d04afa0542da46580
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Ricardo

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to hxwhf72752003

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ORIGINAL: hxwhf72752003

Hi everyone. I like Diego del Morao so much and I want to learn some skills of him. One of my friends told me that the Morao family has some secrets about strumming strings. I think it may be true. My friend Duan who is learning at AER(A guitar school in Seville where Nino de Pura teaches, and where the principal invites famous guitarists such as Diego del Morao and Juan Campllo to teach) told me that they had a lesson about Morao‘s strumming strings. I think Diego's strumming is more magical and impressive.
Does anyone know something about it?
Here is a video from Fernando del Morao‘s(Diego’s nephew)Instagram.
【【弗拉门戈吉他】Diego del Morao在家中演奏原创Alegrias】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1AH4y11757/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=543497b797fdd19d04afa0542da46580


A large percentage of his techniques are from his uncle Moraito, who demonstrated most of the main material in the Encuentro video. The true “secret” he gave was the medio compas for the cante remate (after the cambio or penultimate line of verse, a half compas conclusion is expressed). If you listen to Luis El Zambo “Gloria Bendita” album, the two bulerias with uncle and nephew together, every letra but one is a lesson in this technique. The other thing is the triplet starting on the off-beat, using i and a fingers only. Again in buleria, after an up stroke on the chord at count 6-&, two pick up triplets are played so that starting down a-i, lead into I UP stroke on the beat 8, and triplets continue to 10. That is tricky to get. The rhythm comes from Paco’s Almoraima bulerias (at least the first time I hear it done that way in history), however, Paco does it differently (abanico), so it is somewhat a unique thing. Tomatito and Gerardo Nuñez also do this (both abanico and i-a).

The other thing is the basic Amii stroke, such as fellow Jerezano Cepero uses to devastating effect is similar to the previous, where I UP stroke is expressing the beat, and the down strokes fill in between. Because Moraito starting doing a much slower buleria than Cepero and the Jerezano predecessors (I pointed out recently Moraito is using slow phrases of Paco note for note), what again Uncle and son are doing is dragging the timing of the ami downstrokes so they swing into the back beat more, and emphasize the i up strokes on the beat, rather than 4 even strokes. Hope that makes sense.

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hxwhf72752003

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

The true “secret” he gave was the medio compas for the cante remate (after the cambio or penultimate line of verse, a half compas conclusion is expressed).


Oh, I noticed that at a Tangos performance of Diego del Morao & Jesus Mendez. It really confused me at the time. Thank you Ricardo, I will try the half compas.

About the "amii" and "aiiaii", in fact I noticed this early on and have now mastered this technique.

In fact, I want to talk about Diego's strumming tone, which I think is unique and beautiful, but I don't know why.

Anyway, thank you very much for your reply, it helped me a lot
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johnnefastis

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to hxwhf72752003

This is great if you want to delve into his technique. Sometime its half price.

Sadly there is not as much content as the Encuentro series but he goes into a fair amount of detail with remates and cierres.

https://buscadoresflamencos.com/producto/diego-del-morao/
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hxwhf72752003

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to johnnefastis

Hi johnnefastis. Thank you for your reply. You referred ”Encuentro“, but I didn't find it on Youtube.

Buscadores is good, I agree with you. However, it is difficult for me (I am living in China) to pay the fee of the online class
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Ricardo

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to hxwhf72752003

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You referred ”Encuentro“, but I didn't find it on Youtube.


These were produced in the old age, back when we actually had to PAY for instructional material. It was a cool $100 package with a VHS tape or DVD in PAL (Europe) or NTSC (USA), that came with a book of the material in notes and Tablature. After YouTube got popular, some people tried to load digitized versions up but Encuentro producers were still trying to fight the tidal wave coming where the music industry would become about streaming and advertising for royalties (a joke…artists get pennies and music/video is basically free now). All Encuentro materials got pulled from internet streaming, and they never got over the fact that their content was too important to pretend to protect by antiquated copyright laws.

So I recommend to see if you can find them used online for sale somewhere.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 24 2024 14:18:43
 
silddx

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to Ricardo

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These were produced in the old age, back when we actually had to PAY for instructional material. It was a cool $100 package with a VHS tape or DVD in PAL (Europe) or NTSC (USA), that came with a book of the material in notes and Tablature. After YouTube got popular, some people tried to load digitized versions up but Encuentro producers were still trying to fight the tidal wave coming where the music industry would become about streaming and advertising for royalties (a joke…artists get pennies and music/video is basically free now). All Encuentro materials got pulled from internet streaming, and they never got over the fact that their content was too important to pretend to protect by antiquated copyright laws.

So I recommend to see if you can find them used online for sale somewhere.


If you mean these they are available to buy as streaming https://www.lasonantaclasses.com/categories/flamenco-guitar-online-video-classes
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 24 2024 14:32:10
 
Ricardo

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to silddx

quote:

ORIGINAL: silddx

quote:

These were produced in the old age, back when we actually had to PAY for instructional material. It was a cool $100 package with a VHS tape or DVD in PAL (Europe) or NTSC (USA), that came with a book of the material in notes and Tablature. After YouTube got popular, some people tried to load digitized versions up but Encuentro producers were still trying to fight the tidal wave coming where the music industry would become about streaming and advertising for royalties (a joke…artists get pennies and music/video is basically free now). All Encuentro materials got pulled from internet streaming, and they never got over the fact that their content was too important to pretend to protect by antiquated copyright laws.

So I recommend to see if you can find them used online for sale somewhere.


If you mean these they are available to buy as streaming https://www.lasonantaclasses.com/categories/flamenco-guitar-online-video-classes


Really surprised Encuentro is letting them do that (if they know about it even). They are breaking the video’s apart in chunks. Don’t see the buleria cante demo on there (the part I described earlier).

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 24 2024 14:57:29
 
hxwhf72752003

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to Ricardo

OH,it just hit me.

【【4K极致修复】Moraito Chico弗拉门戈吉他教程(1998年)】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1HY4y1k7ct/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=543497b797fdd19d04afa0542da46580

You mean this? A flamenco fan from China repaired a DVD and uploaded it to Chinese video website.
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Ricardo

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to hxwhf72752003

quote:

ORIGINAL: hxwhf72752003

OH,it just hit me.

【【4K极致修复】Moraito Chico弗拉门戈吉他教程(1998年)】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1HY4y1k7ct/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=543497b797fdd19d04afa0542da46580

You mean this? A flamenco fan from China repaired a DVD and uploaded it to Chinese video website.


Yep there you go. Several of the slow version of the opening bulerias have rasgueado remates, which are the important ones, either 4 notes or triplets (he uses both in the slow versions). There are more in the fast version to pick out. And at the end of the video 1:16:30, he describes the half compas for the cante, then proceeds to demonstrate it EVERY letra. This short ditty is a huge and profound thing in context of the formal structure of Solea/buleria in general. I wanted to point this out for years now.

Maybe you can find the transcription book that clarifies the rasgueado patterns.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 24 2024 15:55:18
 
silddx

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to Ricardo

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Really surprised Encuentro is letting them do that (if they know about it even). They are breaking the video’s apart in chunks. Don’t see the buleria cante demo on there (the part I described earlier).


I feel sure it's all legit, they sell the books and DVDs too.

So your Buleria cante demo is not in this list? https://www.lasonantaclasses.com/categories/moraito-online-guitar-video-classes
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hxwhf72752003

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to Ricardo

Thank you
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Ricardo

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to silddx

quote:

ORIGINAL: silddx

quote:

Really surprised Encuentro is letting them do that (if they know about it even). They are breaking the video’s apart in chunks. Don’t see the buleria cante demo on there (the part I described earlier).


I feel sure it's all legit, they sell the books and DVDs too.

So your Buleria cante demo is not in this list? https://www.lasonantaclasses.com/categories/moraito-online-guitar-video-classes


Unless they attached it to the end of the Malagueña, no. But who cares? It’s free in China!!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 25 2024 10:45:40
 
silddx

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RE: The secret about Diego del Morao... (in reply to Ricardo

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But who cares? It’s free in China!!


Well it ain't free in Europe, I had to pay Lasonanta for the Gerardo ones I have.
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