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rafapak

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flamenco guitar youtube channels-onl...

hi

i don't like youtube clips made with computer software. Can you guys recommend youtube channels devoted to flamenco guitar where clips are recorded exclusively with video cameras ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2023 22:02:04

silddx

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2023 22:06:43

Stu

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

What do you mean?

Can you post an example of the type of video you mean?

Maybe I'm lucky as I don't come across such videos. The only ai generated voice/text videos I've seen are youtube shorts. Quick hit, poisonous content designed to maximize clicks and profit.

I've never seen any serious flamenco tutorial videos like this.

Unless of course you mean something else.

What kind of thing are you hoping for? Just solo guitar performances? Or tutorial videos/online classes?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 0:50:05

Stu

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Stu)

Simple search of YouTube. 'Flamenco lessons'

Theres not one ai generated Video. Ignore the clips.

Flamenco explained, elite guitarist (Ricardo stuff,) buscadores flamenco, Lucian ghosn, flamenco maps etc etc

Think my results are dictated by my browsing history.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 0:57:43

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Stu)

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What do you mean?

just camera in front of this guy
no microphone connected to software

here the same case
just videocamera
sound is not modified by computer software

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 15:40:35

Stu

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From: London (the South of it), England

RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

Oh so these are good examples? I was hoping* could you post example of the ones you don't like...But anyways

I think I misunderstood you. Sorry.

So you mean videos with unprocessed sound?

'Made by computer' means something different too me but ok.

You want flamenco guitar videos that are recorded with a video camera/camera phone? Recording the sound via the onboard microphone?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 15:58:56

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Stu)

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So you mean videos with unprocessed sound?

yes

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 16:13:03

silddx

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From: London

RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

I can't see how a phone recording is not computerised. But hey ho. I think you are missing out greatly because of your dislike.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 16:26:49

Morante

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

https:
//www.flamencoguitarsforsale.net/en/practical-tips-to-choose-your-flamenco-guitar/

Read, learn and act.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 16:48:53

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Morante)

quote:

https:
//www.flamencoguitarsforsale.net/en/practical-tips-to-choose-your-flamenco-guitar/

Read, learn and act.

thanks for interesting article

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 16:56:10

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Stu)

quote:

'Made by computer' means something different too me but ok

beautiful playing plus videocamera
no microphone in front of guitar
perfect for me

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 17:43:03

silddx

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From: London

RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

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no microphone in front of guitar

Yes there was. You wouldn't be hearing anything if there wasn't.

There were/are Flamencos who believe flamenco should not be recorded at all.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 19:34:47

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Stu)

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I was leaving could you post example of the ones you don't like

this guy has microphone in front of guitar and he modified guitar sound-not for me.
probably sound of this guitar is good but he killed it with software

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2023 23:52:41

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

video for me again

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2023 0:12:06

Stu

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

quote:

just camera in front of this guy

''this guy''

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2023 0:47:04

Stu

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

Thanks for sharing those Videos. Yeah ok I see what you mean. You don't want any effects added. Fair enough.

Are you watching all these videos to find guitars you might like to buy?

The ones you say you like are marketing videos.
And the ones you don't like are just dudes who are recording their playing, not showing off the guitar, but to show off their skills.

So why not search for guitar makers and then once you have a list search for their channels on youtube.

How long have you been studying flamenco guitar? Do you have a guitar currently?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2023 0:52:09

Stu

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Morante)

quote:

www.flamencoguitarsforsale.net/en/practical-tips-to-choose-your-flamenco-guitar

The translation is rough going.

But thanks for sharing.

Rafapak what's your first language?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2023 0:55:33

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Stu)

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How long have you been studying flamenco guitar? Do you have a guitar currently?

i dont have flamenco guitar at the moment but i want to buy one
thats why im flying to london on wednesday

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2023 9:04:23

Ricardo

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

Cel phone camera video tech has improved a lot, to the point the sound is highly processed compared to what you are thinking. Mainly compression is used, built in with no option to suppress it. Some filters are even using noise reduction, however, since it is not practical always to put the camera (mic attached) in an optimal position (like the mics placed that you ironically don’t prefer), you have a guitar sound mixed in with ambient noise. You wrongly believe that this will give you a truer guitar sound, and should be careful making your purchasing decisions on this aspect.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2023 17:31:08

silddx

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

Are you visiting the London Guitar Studio?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2023 18:05:52

silddx

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

Good luck in London today, rafapak. I hope you find what you are looking for.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2023 9:22:40

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to silddx)

quote:

Are you visiting the London Guitar Studio?

yes, they have nice felipe conde cutaway guitar there. In case somebody is interested the handle on the case is in orange color.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2023 18:46:27

silddx

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

Did you buy a guitar?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2023 18:47:46

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Ricardo)

quote:

Cel phone camera video tech has improved a lot, to the point the sound is highly processed compared to what you are thinking. Mainly compression is used, built in with no option to suppress it. Some filters are even using noise reduction, however, since it is not practical always to put the camera (mic attached) in an optimal position (like the mics placed that you ironically don’t prefer), you have a guitar sound mixed in with ambient noise. You wrongly believe that this will give you a truer guitar sound, and should be careful making your purchasing decisions on this aspect.

thanks for valuable insight

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2023 18:47:53

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to silddx)

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Did you buy a guitar?

no but they have few hand made guitars from spain there if somebody wants to check.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2023 18:50:13

rafapak

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to Stu)

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Rafapak what's your first language?

polish. Yesterday after talking to people who work at london guitar studio I was told that they are brother and sister (lady and man were working there yesterday) and that their grandparents were born in Poland. Their grandparents lived in a city 15 kilometers from my home city. What a coincidence !

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2023 18:56:13

silddx

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

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polish. Yesterday after talking to people who work at london guitar studio I was told that they are brother and sister (lady and man were working there yesterday) and that their grandparents were born in Poland. Their grandparents lived in a city 15 kilometers from my home city. What a coincidence !

That's really nice.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2023 19:19:49

AndresK

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

The atocha channel on youtube has most of the videos in the only camera audio as requested.

https://www.youtube.com/@condeatocha

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 28 2023 19:22:41

xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: flamenco guitar youtube channels... (in reply to rafapak)

London Guitar Studio are vastly overpriced. I've been looking for certain guitars that they also had and tried to sell the same thing 2k above the "normal" price. They also don't have many guitars to choose from (judging by their website), at least not proper luthier made ones - and I couldn't care less about the "brands".
Rafa you've been advised many times that Spain is the place to go if you want to buy a guitar, you're wasting your time and money with basically anywhere else except for the two or three bigger guitar dealers around Europe with great selection.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 28 2023 22:29:08