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The first solea, where I can clearly identify half compas at 1:32. This is a really old one from 1929, do not think I've ever encountered half compas in modern ones.
The first solea, where I can clearly identify half compas at 1:32. This is a really old one from 1929, do not think I've ever encountered half compas in modern ones.
Correct, it was done in the old days on occasion but it’s believed that due to the vast quantity of versions done by younger players Melchor and niño Ricardo, who made a point to hold 12’s, it never caught on as fashionable to cut in half solea. Only buleria became the trend to cut in half at will.
As an aside half compas falsetas in guitar solos are quite numerous however.
Only buleria became the trend to cut in half at will.
I think the video above is not a pure Solea anyway. To me, it sounds like Solea por Buleria or Buleria por Solea, or whatever you call it.
You don’t really understand about cante yet. The guy is singing Serneta 1... the example epitomizing Solea 4 line verse. It’s the most fuking pure solea you can find haha! Please study solea styles http://canteytoque.es/soleares.htm
Buleria pa escuchar or buleria por solea has a limited 6 melodies. Solea por buleria is a modern terminology referring to tempo/ style of dance or guitar, not cante specifically. In the old days there was no distinctions, both song families used the same compas exactly.
The reason the example up top is significant is this: buleria larga melody (one of the 6 buleria por solea melodies) is the unique one that exhibits a possible need for half compas extensions. Serneta 1 or any Solea doesn’t need it yet here is a glaring example of how it could work in practice. As I said, it never caught on but there is no rule or reason why only buleria tempo playing uses it generally.
Speaking of Duquende (from your avatar pic) , I recognized that first letra from the Duke himself using it.
Don’t feel bad Mr Devil. Seems like a lot of what we first learn about flamenco comes from the dance world. As in counting in 12 , and ‘slow-lea’ as Ricardo says. Well, that’s all I can think of anyway
The discussion in your thread is really interesting. As Ricardo mentioned the shortened compass indeed was used in soleares around that time.
Jason, it is amassing how different this letra sounds in Duquende/Chicuelo interpretation. I guess he still uses the traditional A-AB-CD-CD(AB) pattern but way slower and of course in complete 12.
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