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Lucerom

 

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Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras) Ly... 
Just a suggestion...

Is there any way that we could add a "Letras/Lyrics" section to the forum?

I was thinking that there may be some flamenco players out there that would like to know the words to certain songs (maybe even translated into English). It is often difficult to pick out the lyrics by listening to a CD not only becuase some of the singer's accents, but also because some of the words are in Caló (Gipsy language) and it is hard to understand.

Is there anybody else that thinks this is a good idea? If so, how do we proceed?

Just throwing it out there...

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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
Lucerom,
There's hardly a need to IMO..
Just do a search on Google.
Like...http://www.planetadeletras.com/index.php?m=a&a=Camaron+de+la+Isla

It would just be duplicating...maybe we should have a good "Links" page?


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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
Allow me to add the first entry:

Ay ay ay ay ayyyyaaaayy
ayy ay ay aya yyyyyy

ayyyyyy

ay

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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Miguel de Maria) 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria

Allow me to add the first entry:

Ay ay ay ay ayyyyaaaayy
ayy ay ay aya yyyyyy

ayyyyyy

ay


Miguel:

Did you spell check this? I think the "aya" in the second line should be ayaa!
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Lucerom

 

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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Ron.M) 
Ron M.

Thanks for posting that site. It looks like it will be very useful. I'm going to save that one to my favorites.

What about posting the lyrics for some flamenco standards such as Fandangos or Colombianas?

I will post the standard lyrics for Zorongo tonight when I get home. I believe the lyrics for this flamenco standard came from a poem authored by Federíco García Lorca.

Miguel - LMAO. I have to agree with you. I think "Ay ay ay ay ayyyaaaayy" is in almost every song. Can you translate that into English for us?

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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
Zorongo

Las manos de mi cariño
Te están bordando una capa
Con agreman de alhelíes
Y esclavines de agua
La luna es un pozo chico
Las flores no valen ná
Lo que valen son tus brazos
Cuando de noche me abrazan
Lo que valen son tus brazos
Cuando de noche me abrazan
Cuando fuiste novia mía
En la primavera Blanca
Los cascos de tu caballo
Cuatro sollozos de plata
La luna es un pozo chico etc…
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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
My loving hands
embroider you a cape
With a garland of wallflowers
and bangles of water ( Note: esclavinos is 18th century and connected with slavery)
the moon is a small well
the flowers count for nothing
What counts are your arms
At night when they embrace me
What counts are your arms
At night when they embrace me
When you were my girl
In the white spring
the hooves of your horse ( note : cascos can also mean flirtatious)
Four sobs of silver
the moon is a small well etc...


rough translation,

Kate

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La Contratiempo

 

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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
hi.
Another idea is to google parts of letras between "". I usely do that to find the whole one, like for instance: google "los van a prender" and you'll find the whole letra por tangos...

I actually think a letra-sección would be fine. There is a lot for guitarist here, but there are other facets of flamenco too. I can also try, with my poor english, to translate them for you if you have any, you need explained.


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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Kate) 
Kate:
Very nice translation. I especially liked your side notes. Thank you. You seem very knowledgeable and valuable to this forum.Are you a native from Spain?

La Contratiempo:
Thank you for the support on this idea. I hope others will see value in it too. We will see how it goes.
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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
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ORIGINAL: Lucerom

Kate:
Very nice translation. I especially liked your side notes. Thank you. You seem very knowledgeable and valuable to this forum.Are you a native from Spain?


No I'm native English but live in Granada and I love translation, especially poetry, wish I could make a living doing this but no such luck. Most translation is legal, medical, engineering etc. My husband is a musician and record producer so which got us very involved with flamenco, another passion of mine.

Right I'm off to meet Simon our founder for lunch.

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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
I would appreciate it. Regarding to letras there´s a new German site I´ve linked to in a separate thread.
A Letras forum imho is a very useful completion to this flamenco stage.

Saludos
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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
If I wanna know some good poems. I would read a book of a good poet but I wouldnt hear flamenco singing.

I wouldnt call flamenco letras poems. Most of the letras are really bad amateur ones IMO.

And they all sing the same old letras (except more modern singers)... Only one farruca letra and all singers sing it. I thought the letras are the outlet of the singers feelings. Why do they all sing the same letras??? Arlegrias the same, other palos, too..etc.. Do they all have the same feelings? The same pain?
IMO thats a bad fake if a singer sings the letras of another one. Or just what they call "traditional".
I´m happy that many of the singers of today have teir own letras. But I chancel the level of poetry out here.
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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
quote:

Is there any way that we could add a "Letras/Lyrics" section to the forum?
Is there anybody else that thinks this is a good idea? If so, how do we proceed?


I think its a very good idea! Would be nice to have a collection of common letras w translations and different chord progressions they could be ackompanied with.

Im for it!
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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Lucerom) 
i got plenty of "old" letras i would like to get some of Pitingos new cd on lyrics

the Alegria first!!

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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Guest) 
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ORIGINAL: romerito

instead of only a letras section, is there way to do a database?? It's nice to hear specific letras done by the same singer at different points in their career or different singers. A good way to study.


The idea of the audio database is good, but it infringes the copyrights of the authors or their administrators. Buying CDs helps the interpreters more than just copying. So my suggestion would be to make different sections for palos and CD recomandations for cante, maybe devided into traditional and modern cante.

Saludos
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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Guest) 
You´ve said you wanted to hear singers. Even if the singer uses public domain letras, publicating his interpretation infringes his copyright for sure, at least due to German laws what is prosecuted here. If in your country it is no problem, then let´s go for it.

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RE: Suggestion: Can We Add a (Letras... (in reply to Guest) 
There is "fair use" clause where if the excerpt is short enough, can be used for educational purposes. Any copyrighted work in USA. A single letra would be perfect example. Probably similar in other countries, but one would need to check it out.

In the mean time there is Andalucia.org

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