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Flamenco vs Classical
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Ricardo
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RE: Flamenco vs Classical (in reply to SriLanang)
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Are there differences in style in flamenco playing?...coz i watched several teaching video like Juan Martin, Serrano ...and i see their technique is different from Paco DL, Oscar Herrero. Yeah there are differences. Most players wish to play with the same ease and fluidity that Paco has, that is the main difference. But there are great players who do it different than Paco. There is no "proper" technique, but just based on the description, it sounds like your friend knows his stuff, and you should do well by learning from him. Ultimately you have to be able to PLAY something, which ever technique style you develop. You have to beable to play smooth and in rhythm, no matter what your hand position looks like. Watch the video Rito y Geografia del Toque, to see MANY different styles of the masters, including Paco. Ricardo
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Date Apr. 14 2006 7:32:16
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Skai
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RE: Flamenco vs Classical (in reply to SriLanang)
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When I mentioned uneven, I meant playing it on purpose for example like PdL with accents and pauses at strategic intervals, eg. a thumb note held abit longer. Of course this is not saying that they couldn't have trained it evenly! But at the same time, you have to admit that nail click sounds at times are more forgiveable in flamenco, even PdL records have them. But every nail click in something like Recuerdos is an error. However, Pena has an absolutely wonderful tremolo. Cheers to Pena! However, the method and tone of accenting is different in both styles. Arpeggios tend to focus on flow in classical, whereas in flamenco, the flow is of a different kind. It's so hard to explain but you can tell whether a person has been putting effort in a particular style quite easily. As for picado, this technique is highly similar and will help in classical no doubt. But changes in tone have to be made. To think that classical is a toned down version of flamenco is a huge mistake, there are far more considerations in classical apart from technical speed and confidence. Every single note has to be well thought out and played with 'correct' tone and exact angle of attack. All in all, 'unevenness' is NOT a form of sloppiness when mentioned in this case. I'm sure anyone can tell the difference between textured flamenco playing and someone who can't play! Non-textured flamenco playing practically bores me and all recordings I've heard are textured in the 'right way'! To ask a classical player to play flamenco without any compas background is rather unfair though. The rhythm itself is not something that can be 'transferred', unlike techniques which can get very similar. Bulerias? C'mon that's not a fair challenge! Estudio Brilliante as the name suggests, is simply an arpeggio study! The trick of it is how to bring out the voicing at higher speeds, rather than let it get lost inside the arpeggios. This is precisely the point I'm trying to make. Without accenting in a way that classical guitarists are never trained to, and playing a rhythm alien to classical music, they will be wasting their time without learning compas and I recommend any pure classical player not to waste their time.
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Date Apr. 15 2006 4:01:33
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