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Jayananda

 

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tangos rasgueo 

I'm interested to see what others think about what the best method is for the four stroke rasgueo on the first chord in a tangos phrase ie. the Bflat that generally starts the phrase with two sixteenths, eighth, quarter.

I noticed that my hand wasn't really decided between a m i i or e a m i or e a m ma or a m i ma, or I even sometimes use a triplet style wrist based rasgueo.

They all work, but I'm curious to see if there is a commonly accepted standard pattern that flamencos use, or if it truly is different for everyone.

comments??
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Ricardo

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RE: tangos rasgueo (in reply to Jayananda

pretty common to start on the UP stroke with i. so i up ami. So you end with i down. And you do that strum twice. The closing chord on A major, is usually the opposite, ami i up to end. More common now adays is to leave off the m finger so you have a nice galloping horse rhythm starting i up on the Bb chord. iai, iai etc. You would do a similar strum for things like Fandangos and Sevillanas, Verdiales etc.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 18 2009 7:55:54
 
Jayananda

 

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RE: tangos rasgueo (in reply to Ricardo

Far out...I never would have thought to do it that way. I'll try that out. Thanks
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tateharmann

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RE: tangos rasgueo (in reply to Jayananda

I figured I would post a question here rather than start a new topic since it's very related.

Would there be anything wrong with doing an imi triplet rasgueo instead of iai?
It just feels more natural to me. It also makes me wonder what the advantage of iai is...or was just an evolution from iami to iai like Ricardo mentions?..

And I am speaking specifically of tangos, although I imagine this rasgueo would be useful in other palos too.

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Leñador

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RE: tangos rasgueo (in reply to Jayananda

IMI is fine! Also useful in fandangos.

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tateharmann

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RE: tangos rasgueo (in reply to Leñador

Great, thx!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 1 2017 2:37:02
 
Ricardo

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RE: tangos rasgueo (in reply to tateharmann

quote:

ORIGINAL: tateharmann

I figured I would post a question here rather than start a new topic since it's very related.

Would there be anything wrong with doing an imi triplet rasgueo instead of iai?
It just feels more natural to me. It also makes me wonder what the advantage of iai is...or was just an evolution from iami to iai like Ricardo mentions?..

And I am speaking specifically of tangos, although I imagine this rasgueo would be useful in other palos too.


THere is a reason actually. When doing the strum on say a Bb chord, you typically bend your thumb and flick the i finger toward the basses. The resultant sound is the i up stroke gets the trebles, the a finger because it hangs down further from the i or m finger hits the middle strings like 432, and kind of softer too, and the i down hits the Bass notes....you get a "Chuck-ah-Boom, chuck-ah-boom" etc, sound, a very nice gallop. You can go for the same thing with m instead, but because the finger is long and up close the i, it makes more of the bass sound too. Chuck-boom boom, chuck boom boom....at least when I do it there is a difference.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 2 2017 13:33:24
 
tateharmann

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RE: tangos rasgueo (in reply to Jayananda

Thanks Ricardo! I've been practicing it both ways anyhow :)

There is a method to this madness called flamenco after all lol.

Cheers!

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