All Rosewood now under restrictions acc. to CITES

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pbekkerh

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All Rosewood now under restrictions ...

https://reverb.com/ca/news/new-cites-regulations-for-all-rosewood-species

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A new regulation takes effect on January 2, 2017 that calls for documentation when shipping instruments internationally that contain any amount of any kind of rosewood or certain types of bubinga.

It does not apply to instruments shipped within the borders of your country or instruments carried for personal use while traveling internationally [unless they contain more than 22 lbs. (10 kg) of the regulated woods].

This is a developing story, with details emerging as government agencies figure out how to create processes around the new requirements. To what degree they are enforced remains to be seen.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 16 2016 12:09:08

Estevan

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RE: All Rosewood now under restricti... (in reply to pbekkerh)

There's a thread in the Lutherie section with more information.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 16 2016 16:25:56

Red_Label

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RE: All Rosewood now under restricti... (in reply to pbekkerh)

Wow... that's wacky. We're gonna have to play 3D printed plastic guitars if this keeps up.

I guess the upside might be that as rosewood becomes more rare, it will become more valuable and perhaps those with large collections sitting around will be more motivated to sell some off, and thus share more rosewood instruments with others.

I'm partial to cypress, spruce, and ebony... so the rosewood thing doesn't yet have a big impact on me. I suppose it's only a matter of time before some of those woods are restricted as well.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 11 2017 17:22:54

Ricardo

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RE: All Rosewood now under restricti... (in reply to Red_Label)

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ORIGINAL: Red_Label

Wow... that's wacky. We're gonna have to play 3D printed plastic guitars if this keeps up.

I guess the upside might be that as rosewood becomes more rare, it will become more valuable and perhaps those with large collections sitting around will be more motivated to sell some off, and thus share more rosewood instruments with others.

I'm partial to cypress, spruce, and ebony... so the rosewood thing doesn't yet have a big impact on me. I suppose it's only a matter of time before some of those woods are restricted as well.

This includes bridges and faceplates amigo. No guitar is safe.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 12 2017 17:47:21

pundi64

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From: Thailand

RE: All Rosewood now under restricti... (in reply to pbekkerh)

OH wow, just makes problems for all Luther's more and more regulation

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 12 2017 21:08:14

Red_Label

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Joined: Apr. 23 2012

RE: All Rosewood now under restricti... (in reply to Ricardo)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: Red_Label

Wow... that's wacky. We're gonna have to play 3D printed plastic guitars if this keeps up.

I guess the upside might be that as rosewood becomes more rare, it will become more valuable and perhaps those with large collections sitting around will be more motivated to sell some off, and thus share more rosewood instruments with others.

I'm partial to cypress, spruce, and ebony... so the rosewood thing doesn't yet have a big impact on me. I suppose it's only a matter of time before some of those woods are restricted as well.

This includes bridges and faceplates amigo. No guitar is safe.

Dang... this is getting silly. Good thing I have no plans to travel internationally with one of my instruments!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 13 2017 13:38:56

Red_Label

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RE: All Rosewood now under restricti... (in reply to pundi64)

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ORIGINAL: pundi64

OH wow, just makes problems for all Luther's more and more regulation

Yup. We have seen the future and it's called "regulation". I'm a dinosaur who clings desperately to his old freedom-loving ways.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 13 2017 13:41:42

kitarist

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RE: All Rosewood now under restricti... (in reply to Red_Label)

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ORIGINAL: Red_Label

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

This includes bridges and faceplates amigo. No guitar is safe.

Dang... this is getting silly. Good thing I have no plans to travel internationally with one of my instruments!

There is an exception for non-commercial shipment of up to 10kg of non-brazillian rosewood. So there is no problem with international travel with your personal guitar. Not that your guitar would be heavier than 10kg, but that 10kg number applies to just the weight of the rosewood, not to the guitar as a total or its packaging. So you can safely take several guitars if you wanted to.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 13 2017 18:31:01