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Phil

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From: Rota, Spain

I have an idea 

Hi everyone,
I have an idea that I think will be of interest to those of us who are guitarists. I suggest that we start posting audio clips AND transcriptions of falsetas that we’ve learned or are learning that showcase a specific technique like alzapua, picado, double arpeggios, tremolo, rapid thumb down strokes, a tricky left hand fingering or difficult stretch, or anything that you’ve found to be particularly challenging. I guarantee that if you found it to be challenging, then most of the rest of us mere mortals will also find it challenging. (Except for Merle, who’s constantly whining about not being able to play and then posts some sound clip that makes the rest of us feel inferior).

I’ll get the ball rolling as soon as I transcribe and can play the falesta that I’m currently working on. (I should have it down within the next 6 months). It’s a Malagueña falseta that most of you have probably heard, and it’s really kicking my ass, because it requires alternating i and m with p apoyando and then a p and i pinch. (And it’s not any variation of that tired old falseta that Ernesto Lecuono made famous and that everyone associates with Flamenco). Anyway, for me it’s like rubbing my head and patting my stomach at the same time. (I’m still having trouble with that).

Does anyone else think that this would be something that would interest most of the members? I suggest no more that 1 such post every week or two. Otherwise it could get to be overwhelming. Everyone here should have both TabEdit and Guitar Pro. They are the most common tablature programs around and both have free versions available for downloading. The free versions allow you to play back a file of any size, but limit you to about 16 bars when you’re writing tabs. That’s usually enough for a falseta, and if it’s not you can break it up into smaller pieces. They are nice programs because they allow you to hear the transcriptions play in MIDI.

Simon, can we upload TabEdit and Guitar Pro files? Tell me what you think of this idea.

Phil
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Florian

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From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: I have an idea (in reply to Phil

Thats a very good idea Phil , i suporrt that.

Id like us to take it even a step further and we all share a falseta that we have transcribed (from our fav cd or we have made up) ourselfs witch is not available on tablature.
Wouldnt that be something , we can just rely on ourselfs to get some new repertoir.

what do you think ?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2003 4:03:02
 
Phil

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From: Rota, Spain

RE: I have an idea (in reply to Phil

Florian said,
quote:

Id like us to take it even a step further and we all share a falseta that we have transcribed (from our fav cd or we have made up) ourselfs witch is not available on tablature.


Florian,
Not only do I like the idea, but I've suggested it before and there didn't seem to be any interest. Maybe some people feel that their transcriptions aren't up to standards. I'm, for example, learning to transcribe and I'm sure my transcripts are full of errors, but the more you do it the better you get. Plus, if you provide an audio sample either of you playing the falseta or the original, those who know more about transcribing can correct the errors. So. not only would we be learning new falsetas, we'd also be learning to better transcribe the things we pick up from CD's or create. Transcribing is a terrific skill to learn. You spend hours trying to pick up something from a CD and if you don't put it down in writing you'll probably forget it eventually. We could make this forum the real "Flamenco Teacher".
Phil
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Escribano

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From: England, living in Italy

RE: I have an idea (in reply to Phil

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Simon, can we upload TabEdit and Guitar Pro files? Tell me what you think of this idea.


You can upload both in the Tabs section but the system can only seem to find TabEdit files so I would stick to those if you can.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2003 10:01:43
 
Escribano

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Quick TabEdit and golpes question (in reply to Phil

Trying to tab something, can I signify a golpe in TabEdit and how?

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Escribano

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RE: Quick TabEdit and golpes questio... (in reply to Escribano

thanks

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2003 14:01:30
 
Escribano

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From: England, living in Italy

RE: I have an idea (in reply to Phil

Seems to be a problem with downloading tef and gp* files. Not sure what the problem is, they upload OK. I'll have a look.

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Thomas Whiteley

 

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From: San Francisco Bay Area

RE: Quick TabEdit and golpes question (in reply to Escribano

Simon;

To create a Golpe in TablEdit:

1. Press Control T or select from the Menu Edit/Text Manager
2. Click New.
3. Enter a character to indicate Golpe – I use G.
4. Click location of text desired (four choices)
5. Place your cursor on the spot where you want the golpe to appear.
6. Select Control T
7. Use your cursor to highlight the desired text to be added.
8. Click Insert.



To add a percussion patch:

1. Select from the Menu, Play percussion Patches
2. Click New
3. Choose a sound you like – I use 64 (Low Conga)
4. Use your mouse to indicate on which beat you wish to have the patch applied.
5. Patches begin with a 0.
6. Apply your patch to the measure of interest.
7. I make up a series of patches for each beat and keep a list of which one is which.

Take a look at my web site for examples. Any questions you know where I am.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2003 15:33:57
 
Escribano

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From: England, living in Italy

RE: Quick TabEdit and golpes question (in reply to Thomas Whiteley

Thanks Tom, I used Edit->Insert->Musical Symbol and put a little square above the note.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2003 16:01:09
 
Merle

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RE: I have an idea (in reply to Phil

quote:

(Except for Merle, who’s constantly whining about not being able to play and then posts some sound clip that makes the rest of us feel inferior).


Uh,...I don't think so!!

Anyway, I like your idea, as it gives some of us more learning material. Now, really, I doubt that I will be able to contribute anything at all, but, I will definetely gain from it.

Merle

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