String Tension Help

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Sr. Martins

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String Tension Help

My guitar came with a set of Luthier 30 (titanium trebles). The basses I already changed to LaBella 820 because they were too thick for my liking.

The trebles feel a bit too hard and I would like to know:

Will the black LaBella trebles feel softer than Luthier Titanium or should I just skip those for now and go buy EJ45?

I used to use EJ46 trebles on 650mm guitars but since this one is 660mm, I should get EJ45 to get around the same tension right?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2016 11:17:29

orsonw

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From: London

RE: String Tension Help (in reply to Sr. Martins)

Remember that the bridge is not a fixed point, it attaches to the top, which moves. Therefore pulsation is determined as much or more by the top and guitar as a whole, than it is by the scale length.

Have fun experimenting until you find what suits you and the particular guitar.

If you already have the la bella why not try them, that might tell you something?

According to manufacturer tension specs:
La bella E and B are both softer than EJ45, but the G is harder.
EJ46 are of course even harder than La bella E and B but similar for the G.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2016 13:24:44

Sr. Martins

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RE: String Tension Help (in reply to orsonw)

..and how do the EJ45 compare to the titanium Luthiers?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2016 13:35:20

orsonw

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RE: String Tension Help (in reply to Sr. Martins)

Luthier don't give specs but in my opinion/experience titanium are somewhere between EJ45 and EJ46. (Of course titanium may also feel a little different and harder due to smaller diameter and material).

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2016 13:40:17

Sr. Martins

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RE: String Tension Help (in reply to Sr. Martins)

I've used titanium and carbon from other brands..these luthiers are the hardest.

Seems like the black trebles will be nice. Thanks.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2016 14:03:30

orsonw

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RE: String Tension Help (in reply to Sr. Martins)

quote:

I've used titanium and carbon from other brands..these luthiers are the hardest.

It may also be the guitar? From another thread I think you have a new HSL? They tend to be stiff pulsation guitars, for me that is a good thing. Hope you enjoy your new guitar.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2016 14:59:15

Sr. Martins

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RE: String Tension Help (in reply to orsonw)

Yes, I like stiff guitars. The problem here is that the strings feel hard by themselves and I don't like it very much. Might also be due to the fact that my calos aren't up to speed but still, I prefer softer nylon or even the FF normal tension carbons.

I just didn't want the hassle of changing the trebles and ending up with the same situation (or worse).

Less tension on the E is nice, more tension on the G is also a plus as long as it doesn't mean more diameter. In fact I like the G titanium Luthier, I think that the E is the worst offender.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2016 15:08:05

Sr. Martins

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RE: String Tension Help (in reply to Sr. Martins)

I am really drunk now after watching the game and the trebles are feeling like butter. I will keep them for the time being and maybe I will love them in the future.

My tea is ready, see ya tomorrow mes amis du foro flamenco!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2016 23:29:57

pundi64

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From: Thailand

RE: String Tension Help (in reply to Sr. Martins)

You might try D'Addario Pro.Arte EJ25B composite strings, black trebles, and silver wound basses, I have found them to my liking, used on Flamenco Negra,
the tension rating on these are "custom tension" whatever that is stating?

On my Flamenco Blanca, I'm using La Bella 820 red trebles, also silver plated D, A, E basses.