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RE: First non Spaniard graduated in cante at Concervatory in Barcelona
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Stu
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RE: First non Spaniard graduated in ... (in reply to tijeretamiel)
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Clapton really said that? to his auidience? was he for real or making a socio political point?? Anyway "In the first place, white people got no business playing the blues ever, at all, under any circumstances ever, ever, ever! What the **** do white people have to be blue about? Banana Republic ran out of khakis? Huh? The espresso machine is jammed? Hootie and the Blowfish are breaking up? ****, white people ought to understand their job is to GIVE people the blues, NOT to get them... and certainly not to sing or play them. Tell you a little secret about the blues; it’s not enough to know which notes to play, you gotta know why they need to be played" George Carlin Can this same idea be applied to non gitanos singing cante? or guitarists? I'd probably say yes about cante. (but not the guitar, I just try not to think anout that one too much :-) ) But who is anyone to stop anyone doing something they love?
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Date Jun. 23 2015 16:01:25
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Mark2
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RE: First non Spaniard graduated in ... (in reply to estebanana)
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You still can get boards cheap-on craigslist. A surfboard is like a boat-people buy them thinking they want them then quickly discover they don't which creates a solid market for used boards. My latest score was a cooperfish for 350.00-his new boards are about 1,500. It's cool that you know how to shape. You are a man of many talents for sure. I don't even trust myself to fix dings on a good board. I used to have this ding guy who had his entire house filled with boards. All he did was fix dings and grow weed. But the bastard moved to Kauai. quote:
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Are also the prices of vintage spanish flamenco guitars very high in japan? Seems like japanese work really hard if they are willing to pay such money for custom board. Vintage Spanish guitars, yes high prices. Japan was hit hard by the world economic meltdown so they are still catching up. But yes they work hard. And Japanese people can be real lazy too, I catch city workers napping in their vans when they should be fixing streets and cleaning beaches. But mostly they work really hard. Japan also does not import farm labor, they pick the radishes and lettuces themselves and a damn proud of it. And they pay themselves a fair wage for farm work so food is bit more expensive sometimes. If it is in season it's cheaper, but produce is more than in the US. It all comes down to importing many kinds of raw goods too. Surfboard foam blanks come from Australia or China or Thailand, and some of the resin is imported, so costs are high due to import taxes etc. So used boards are less but a good shaper gets between $1000.00 and 2000.00 for a board depending on how complex. There is one shaper who will glass with a light weave cloth and do two lamination coats and sand out the board leaving it light. Like many shapers in the US were doing by the late 1980's. It make a responsive board, but hard riding will pulp the deck of a board like that in a year. The competitive surfers in the US used to have boards glassed like that when Clark Foam was still in business because foam blanks were not that expensive. Clark foam closed it doors about 7 years ago and cheap blanks are now a thing of the past. So back then even a non pro surfer could get a board made every year or more. The boards here are made with really careful art work and super nice glassing, and I think slightly in the heavy side for more wear and tear. So they charge for it. I can shape ok too, but you gotta doe it everyday for a year or two to become masterful. I don't want to breath that much foam dust.
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Date Jun. 23 2015 20:32:09
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tele
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RE: First non Spaniard graduated in ... (in reply to Stu)
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Stu Clapton really said that? to his auidience? was he for real or making a socio political point?? Anyway "In the first place, white people got no business playing the blues ever, at all, under any circumstances ever, ever, ever! What the **** do white people have to be blue about? Banana Republic ran out of khakis? Huh? The espresso machine is jammed? Hootie and the Blowfish are breaking up? ****, white people ought to understand their job is to GIVE people the blues, NOT to get them... and certainly not to sing or play them. Tell you a little secret about the blues; it’s not enough to know which notes to play, you gotta know why they need to be played" George Carlin Can this same idea be applied to non gitanos singing cante? or guitarists? I'd probably say yes about cante. (but not the guitar, I just try not to think anout that one too much :-) ) But who is anyone to stop anyone doing something they love? Well Clapton's rich and he's british so it's quite possible he said that but I'm doubtful. In general I think he's more of a rocker than blues player and way overrated. But those george's words are way deluded about the blues, sounds like a joke that white man can't have problems/be blue. I have to agree there are very few white blues greats but great blues doesn't come from problems only even when that's the main theme. Gitanos sort of also sing the blues, there's lots of problems, which are similar to those experienced by african americans. The greats have always the talent in the genes
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