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dreolino

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When is the right time to study with... 
Dear all,
greetings out of a snow storm in the alps ;) hope you survived christmas.

I would love to have a great teacher and want to learn it from face to face. im a little sick of screens and all those methods. BUT, I would have to drive a long way plus spent a lot on the lesson itself. consequently, I probably could afford a class once per month

Ive already lived in andalucia for a certain time but Im still struggling with the basics. I loved to learn from gitanos (and gaditanos :) ).

does it make more sense to learn first the basics with online resources (there are actually really great ones like adam del monte) and THEN consult a maestro and spend the money?

I have the feeling, for the basics it doesn't make sense to spent so much on a virtuoso. because a lot of people/online resources that cost less can teach me the basics.

I once had a teacher who was a virtuoso but definitely no great teacher....

I hope you get the point. When is the right time to study with a maestro?

mucha gracia y un abrazo

dreo
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hvymetal1234

 

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RE: When is the right time to study ... (in reply to dreolino) 
I think it makes the most sense to study with a good teacher right away. That way you don't develop bad habits. A good teacher can help with a lot more than just trying to become a virtuoso. Like explaining the compas (correctly), developing good technique (again, correctly), and developing good aire. I have had many bad experiences trying to learn things online. I have also had great experiences with good teachers. I learned an amazing amount studying with El Entri in Madrid. My skill doubled after studying with him. Have fun on your flamenco journey!

-Ross
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 27 2014 21:25:21
 
BarkellWH

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RE: When is the right time to study ... (in reply to dreolino) 
If you can afford a maestro, I recommend you study with one from the very beginning. Not only will it be easier to nail down good technique, compas, rhythm, and accent, but a good instructor can show you short-cuts to making smooth transitions between chords up and down the fretboard. In my opinion, a good instructor is worth his weight in gold from the very beginning.

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Leñador

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RE: When is the right time to study ... (in reply to dreolino) 
It doesn't have to be the best flamenco on the planet, just someone who's obviously above your level can teach you a lot. A first timer in class with tomatito is probably a waste of both peoples time.....

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tele

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RE: When is the right time to study ... (in reply to Leñador) 
It's all about the money and motivation, obviously it's effective to learn with a teacher(who knows how to teach) but these days it's expensive. Another option is to learn from friends. In spain almost every guitarist can teach you, for money or for free

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 28 2014 12:07:50
 
dreolino

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RE: When is the right time to study ... (in reply to dreolino) 
thanks guys for the replies. Thats what im thinking too. a great teacher can bring you everywhere and brings you on the right track right away..

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Another option is to learn from friends. In spain almost every guitarist can teach you, for money or for free


yeah, I learned a lot in my time in cádiz and granada from sometimes total strangers who just crossed my path. what always worked was to invite the guitarist for a copa and you trade that for a falseta ;)

damn, if spain wouldn't be so ****ed i'd look for a job over there
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Paul Magnussen

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RE: When is the right time to study ... (in reply to dreolino) 
When you choose a teacher, you may want to consider your learning style: do you learn best by the monkey see, monkey do approach, or are you going to want explanations?

Of course, Flamenco has traditionally been taught by the former; but if you’re analytical by nature (as I am), then a teacher of the same cast of mind can be a big help.

I was fortunate enough to be taught by two great guitarists: Paco Peña and Mario Escudero. But their teaching skills were very different.

Both prefer(red) to teach by ear; but if you ask Paco where a particular falseta starts, he can tell you it starts on beat 10.

Mario could only tell you it starts here.

I’d already had several years with Paco when I went to Mario, so I could deal with this; but if you’re still struggling with the basics, as you say, you may want to take this into consideration.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 29 2014 18:18:50
 
Leñador

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RE: When is the right time to study ... (in reply to dreolino) 
Agreed Paul, i've had some teachers where because I had a decent base I learned tons from them but if they were my first teacher I woulda been lost as hell.

Although, my teachers weren't PACO PENA and MARIO ESCUDERO! lol

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