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eitanfar

 

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RE: Does understanding letra help gu... (in reply to kudo

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if it does not bring you to tears or at least bring shivers to you, then maybe you are too cold or flamenco is not really deep within you or something is wrong....


This is an extreme example, since:
1. Kids singing bring people to tears much faster
2. His body language conveys a lot of the meaning (e.g grabbing his shirt next to his heart, etc.)
3. His Spanish is very understandable, so it kind of defeats the point of understanding the song without understanding letra ...
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zata

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RE: Does understanding letra help gu... (in reply to Ricardo

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Simple fact is you can actually find individuals that can accompany that don't speak fluently.


There's some misunderstanding here. Perhaps we should be speaking of "distinguishing" the verse rather than understanding its meaning, which wouldn't necessarily enhance the accompaniment.

Many pitfalls can be avoided by recognizing the sound of the words (without actually understanding their meaning).

Recognizing the actual words would be an additional help, again, without necessarily knowing what they mean, because many verses are classics and signal associated music and chords.

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zata

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RE: Does understanding letra help gu... (in reply to eitanfar

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it kind of defeats the point of understanding the song without understanding letra ...


Even Spaniards don't get all the words due to the various techniques of elongation, abbreviation, liason or simple Andalusian mispronunciations. A good verse delivered with excellent enunciation and pronunciation could not stand on its own if the musical interpretation and compás were not up to par; music seems to override the emotions somehow. When Mahler (?) puts Frere Jacques into minor mode, it no longer feels like a children's ditty, but rather a funeral dirge.

I'd say the poetry contributes no more than 10% to the final impact. Poetically inferior verses have occasionally become classics because of the force of their associated music.

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