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Ramon Amira

Posts: 1025
Joined: Oct. 14 2009
From: New York City

Thank you.

I have been informed by several friends of mine on the Foro that my suggestion that we have a discussion of whether or not to allow insults on the Foro, has been greeted by - insults!

I would like to express my deepest thanks for that - it has proven my point better than I could ever have hoped to myself.

Here I said that I felt it's better to have a reasonable discussion of things instead of hurling insults, and I proposed a thread for members to express their thoughts on that. How ironic can it get - instead of that discussion we got insults cutting off the discussion. Beautiful! Again I would like express my gratitude for making my case for me so perfectly.

One other important point. I was not only referring to myself, but as I had said, I was referring also to the damage done to the Foro's reputation. One example will suffice. A woman classical guitarist asked me for a recommendation for information about flamenco. As I always had, I recommended Foro Flamenco, Old School Flamenco Foro, and several books.

She browsed Foro Flamenco and noticed some posts mentioning Elliot Fisk, a well known classical guitarist. As a classical guitarist herself, she naturally knew his name, and so was interested in what was said about him on the Foro. Here's what she read -

One member, whose name I will not mention, called Elliot a "douchebag." That's what he said. And why did he call Elliot a "douchebag?" Because he didn't like Elliot's playing. And worse, this member does not even know Elliot, not that it would matter.

The woman was nauseated by the comment, as would be anyone - man or woman. That is precisely the kind of thing I was referring to that stains the Foro's reputation, and was most certainly worthy of debate among the members.

To the many members who have privately contacted me on my website to express their support and regrets at my leaving the Foro, I say Muchas gracias, y adios amigos.

Ramon

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 7 2014 3:15:22

Grisha

Posts: 1263
Joined: Mar. 17 2005

RE: Thank you. (in reply to Ramon Amira)

Ramon, this forum is constantly changing. If you don't like it now, just stop posting for a while and give it some time. You may like it in the future.

No need to make a pompous exit and burn bridges. I did it once when I felt quitting flamenco was the best way to proceed. Plans changed and I felt awkward afterwards.

Hope you stay.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 7 2014 3:38:15

Chilli Fingers

Posts: 79
Joined: Sep. 21 2010

RE: Thank you. (in reply to Ramon Amira)

So far you have made a 'goodbye' thread and a 'thank you' thread.

Why didn't you just make one 'thank you & goodbye' thread?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 7 2014 3:54:23

ToddK

Posts: 2961
Joined: Dec. 6 2004

RE: Thank you. (in reply to Ramon Amira)

Nothing says "Douchebag" like announcing your foro retirement.

Just go away for god's sake, because just like in
the real world, nobody cares about anyone but themselves.
Get used to it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 7 2014 5:15:17

Miguel de Maria

Posts: 3532
Joined: Oct. 20 2003
From: Phoenix, AZ

RE: Thank you. (in reply to Ramon Amira)

It's kind of like when the villain gets stabbed in a sword fight, and he staggers about the stage for minutes, clutching his chest, contorting his face, knocking over end tables and lampshades, grunting manfully--and finally toppling out a window after finally treating the audience to his perfectly anguished silhouette.

Two drama-filled posts announcing the retirement of a career few knew even existed.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 7 2014 5:43:58

Ruphus

Posts: 3782
Joined: Nov. 18 2010

RE: Thank you. (in reply to ToddK)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Grisha
I did it once when I felt quitting flamenco was the best way to proceed.

If you mentioned this in public I didn´t hear of it.
Man, what a waste of talent it would had been ( eventhough as a sole classical performer you certainly would shine still)!
I am glad you stuck with the genre and hope it will always be a love affair.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ToddK

.. just like in
the real world, nobody cares about anyone but themselves.

At times one could certainly be of such impression ( or worse even. With my experience of the last decade one could think men were reduced to cannibal being).

But there do exist fellow men that are such noble and true treasures. Maybe just a relative handful compared to the giant host we have exploded into, but balancing out the mass with their beauty.

For much of the time I sense mainly the ogre and the lemmings, but it is a straining shame to forget about the fine people.
In fact if they weren´t around to hold up men´s heritage I don´t think I would be wanting to live on a planet of human paramecia.
Just my 2cents.

Ruphus

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 7 2014 9:23:14

BarkellWH

Posts: 3458
Joined: Jul. 12 2009
From: Washington, DC

RE: Thank you. (in reply to Ramon Amira)

quote:

I have been informed by several friends of mine on the Foro that my suggestion that we have a discussion of whether or not to allow insults on the Foro, has been greeted by - insults!

You have now made two dramatic exits, Ramon. Are you to inflict a third on the Foro?

Your quote, cited above and scripted though it is, is farcical. You did not first hear about a follow-up discussion regarding "insults" from "friends" after your first dramatic exit. It is pretty clear that you were reading posts all along and could not resist a further comment. If you really intend to exit, then have the courage of your convictions and do so.

Bill

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And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."

--Rudyard Kipling

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 7 2014 11:14:40