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RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to Sr. Martins)
Ricardo Ribeiro e Pedro Jóia - Covilhã Cidade Neve
what is that music? I never heard it before, but it sounds a bit like the Paco sextet (the flute and cajon I guess - but what is the string instrument?)
RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to Aretium)
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ORIGINAL: Aretium
I have never found western pop/rock/folk/jazz whatever its called to speak to me emotionally).
Which seems like incredible musical frigidity to me. ( Which I commonly only observe with rap/ techno kids or with Orientals.) Where have you been raised, if I may ask?
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RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to Arash)
Cool post, Arash - this is where I came from musically speaking before flamenco got a hold of me
I know both of these guys and have taken lessons with Andy. The 2 big influences they name from an acoustic guitar standpoint are definitely Michael Hedges and Don Ross, who coincidentally I saw in concert last night. Also Preston Reed, Stephen Bennett, Leo Kottke etc.
Kasey, believe it or not that Antoine video is not overdubbed - he can play like that, I've seen it in person! Totally amazing player with great control and quite a bag of techniques to pull from.
The interesting thing about these guys is that they all seem to approach composing in the same way. Guitar is their instrument of choice, but they all are trying to recreate the sounds in their head ie horn sections, drums, strings etc. I consider Don Ross and Michael Hedges the pioneers of this style, but there is a whole generation of great players that have followed in their footsteps.
RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to ralexander)
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Which seems like incredible musical frigidity to me. ( Which I commonly only observe with rap/ techno kids or with Orientals.) Where have you been raised, if I may ask?
I didn't say I didn't listen to that genre of music, I said it didn't speak emotionally, does it mean I can't enjoy it or its ideas? Wouldn't it be better to contribute to the discussion? I listen to plenty of music that doesn't invoke an emotional response, watching cante is very emotional but I wouldn't listen to it on the way to work. p.s Where I am from is of no concern, and in any case why should it matter?
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RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to ralexander)
First one is not playback. I can see that even without having seen him live etc.
I enjoy this style of acoustic guitar more and more recently (though am not so much familiar with the artists) and the mood of it (its kind of a mix between sadness, happinnes and hope, all together in a drawing way). Don't know why, but everytime I watch the first video, it reminds me on the movie Vanilla Sky.
I'm seriously thinking about buying an acoustic guitar and try learning a bit from this style parallel to my flamenco journey. Maybe a cheap Fender Squire SA105 to start with.
As An Iranian its probably weird, but sometimes I also enjoy american country music.
ralexander, thanks for the other suggestions, some names i didn't know. Will check them out.
RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to Arash)
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ORIGINAL: Aretium
I didn't say I didn't listen to that genre of music, I said it didn't speak emotionally, does it mean I can't enjoy it or its ideas? Wouldn't it be better to contribute to the discussion? I listen to plenty of music that doesn't invoke an emotional response, watching cante is very emotional but I wouldn't listen to it on the way to work. p.s Where I am from is of no concern, and in any case why should it matter?
Seems you mean something I don´t understand with "speaking emotionally". Because, when I personally enjoy music, it is always effecting me emotionally. ( From cheering inside, to down to tears.)
What the discussion is concerned, I own albums of Kottke, Sammy Vomacka, Ry Cooder and others to whom I used to listen a lot. And meanwhile I have seen newcomers who will technically play circles around them.
I dig ragtime blues and all the other kinds of steel & folk from around Mississippi, or more in detail much of what came from GB and African Chorusses until it became blues, soul, funk and in the end rock.
So, long live rock´n roll and everything that evolves, in melody and rhythm, raises into all kind of colours, shades and musical means, pulling, inspiring to move one´s body in ever altering ways.
( - And in the opposite, down with stale, colorless monotony. It is not just undemanding to make and listen to, but kills the brain.)
RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to Sr. Martins)
Ahhh Fado... I love it!! Here´s a nice documentary from Spanish tv Entre2aguas by Javier Limon. This one is about fado. I really like the voice of Carminho(11:58). Would love to go to Lisboa one day for some fado. You are from Portugal no Rui? Can you give me some tips on where to go?
RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to koenie17)
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You are from Portugal no Rui? Can you give me some tips on where to go?
It's pretty easy to give tips on this.. once you get there you can pretty much go everywhere by foot, unless you're totally wasted
This is to say that all the names you might have heard (Alfama, Mouraria, Rossio, Bairro Alto, etc) are all next to each other and that's where you'll find all the "Casas de Fado" among others (jazz clubs for example).
EDIT: Javier Limon is a beard that has grown a man.
RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to ralexander)
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The interesting thing about these guys is that they all seem to approach composing in the same way. Guitar is their instrument of choice, but they all are trying to recreate the sounds in their head ie horn sections, drums, strings etc. I consider Don Ross and Michael Hedges the pioneers of this style,
I can't speak for the the others, but Hedges originally attended Peabody Conservatory in Baltimore with the aim of studying classical guitar. Once there however he switched over to studying composition and electronic music. So many of his songs are in different tunings because he would compose first and then find a tuning which he thought was most conducive for the composition.
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RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to Sr. Martins)
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ORIGINAL: Rui Martins
Pedro Joia also plays flamenco. You can find him playing Almoraima.
Before you said this, I already guessed that just by looking at his hand in the first video. You can almost always see If a guitarist plays (or also play) flamenco or not.
Thomas, das erste Video erinnert mich auch ein bisschen an die Boleros von Vicente.
RE: A short break from flamenco (in reply to Arash)
Speaking of short breaks from flamenco (well I have plenty of them when I do other things that need to be done or I like to do ), here again another touch to the issue of rhythm and giutar:
BTW how did you embedd the youtube videos in your posts?
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sexy at it's best......gives me chills 
), here again another touch to the issue of rhythm and giutar: 
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