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RE: From the Horses Mouth (in reply to guitarbuddha)
Glenn talks about the change of focus which lead to JS Bach being considered irrelevant due to the new principles of the 'classical' composers lead by his sons CPE and JC. His opinion on Beethoven as the culmination of the classical school and the first to hearken back to JS in his transcendence of it.
Also one can see the physical affectations which had such a disasterous consequence on his physicality later in life.
RE: From the Horses Mouth (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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so why not just avoid posting stuff you don't want to discuss?
Precisely what I did.
I invited people to observe for themselves.
but.... you didn't just post videos, you added some comments, and Aeolus didn't even ask for a discussion, I think he asked some clarification/explanation.
I might have asked what you meant too, but from looking at the video I can guess what you were getting at.... and if you meant what I think you meant I would probably agree with you.
But then I don't know if you meant what I think you might have meant so I can't be sure....
RE: From the Horses Mouth (in reply to mark indigo)
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I might have asked what you meant too, but from looking at the video I can guess what you were getting at.... and if you meant what I think you meant I would probably agree with you.
I would certainly like to know what GB was getting at. I have read several biographies of Gould and purchased his celebrated debut recording of the Goldberg Variations when it first was released. I know that he ingested an alarming quantity of pharmaceuticals (according to his friends) that one might think did him no good. But if GB wants to pout and play the lofty intellectual, I'd like to hear your take.
I would certainly like to know what GB was getting at.
Well, I don't really know what he was getting at, and I can't speak for him, (and I also can't claim to know anything much about Glen Gould), but what I assumed he was getting at was the relationship between the way Gould held and moved himself in the vids and the later development of problems with his hands.
RE: From the Horses Mouth (in reply to mark indigo)
I wouldn't narrow it to hands.
Rubenstein is much older than Gould here watch his entry at the four minute mark and ask yourself how much more comfortable Rubenstein was going about his daily business, walking to the shops and back, putting socks on etc.
Compared to this man.
Not that I mean to be unkind to Mr Gould's memory. I imagine nothing would be more rewarding than to work with someone like him on mitigating their discomfort.
RE: From the Horses Mouth (in reply to mark indigo)
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ell, I don't really know what he was getting at, and I can't speak for him, (and I also can't claim to know anything much about Glen Gould), but what I assumed he was getting at was the relationship between the way Gould held and moved himself in the vids and the later development of problems with his hands.
Thanks. I had read that piece and I didn't make the leap between his physical problems and the description of disastrous consequences that GB draws. After all the hand cramps and related issues are an occupational hazard for musicians. David Leisner had to sit out 12 years of his career dealing with focal dystonia but over came it and now teaches the methods he learned to students. Gould recorded until almost the end of his life so what ever difficulties he had were manageable. As for Rubenstein's happy go lucky disposition, I have seen him in concert and heard him make a fumbling hash of a piece from beginning to end.
RE: From the Horses Mouth (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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Well that was precisely as rewarding as I expected it to be.
But don't let my exasperation diminish the satisfaction of being willfully obtuse Aeolus.
I can't imagine what would be a rewarding conversation on the subject of Gould's physical problems as the article that Mark posted is probably the last word on the subject. Unless you have some penetrating insights to add.
I can't imagine what would be a rewarding conversation on the subject of Gould's physical problems as the article that Mark posted is probably the last word on the subject.
Unless you have some penetrating insights to add.
Nope not at all.
I am heartened and glad that you and Mark have at last recognised your common ground and are bonding.
RE: From the Horses Mouth (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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Nope not at all.
I am heartened and glad that you and Mark have at last recognised your common ground and are bonding.
Quite touching really.
Try to see the exchange objectively. You make a cryptic remark and get defensive when 2 respondents ask for clarification. The article linked to was very through in recording the known history of Goulds maladies. I can't imagine any of us being able to add anything but idle uninformed speculation.
I can't imagine any of us being able to add anything but idle uninformed speculation.
Well we got your presumably well informed (and I am sure not based on an imaginary event) opinion on Rubenstein.
Classic trolling, my congratulations and no less commendable for having been predicted.
And thanks again Mark for reminding me of my responsibility to engage with trolls.
And if there are any young players watching who want to look as shrunken and prematurely aged as Gould I would urge them to accept unquestioned any emerging physical affectations. OK that could lead to a lifetime of pain, but better that than 'speculating' as to what is and isn't a good idea in terms of body use.
Actually the last time I was with someone with a similar physicality and spinal curvature it was my girlfriends grandmother. It was a treat to be with her as she enjoyed breathing easily for a time and became calm. She died a few days later.
RE: From the Horses Mouth (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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Rubenstein is much older than Gould here watch his entry at the four minute mark and ask yourself how much more comfortable Rubenstein was going about his daily business, walking to the shops and back, putting socks on etc.
RE: From the Horses Mouth (in reply to guitarbuddha)
" Paris was invaded by such a swarm of artists, writers, students, dilettanti, sight-seers, debauchees, and plain idlers as the world has probably never seen. In some quarters of the town the so-called artists must actually have outnumbered the working population—indeed, it has been reckoned that in the late twenties there were as many as 30,000 painters in Paris, most of them impostors. The populace had grown so hardened to artists that gruff-voiced lesbians in corduroy breeches and young men in Grecian or medieval costume could walk the streets without attracting a glance, and along the Seine banks Notre Dame it was almost impossible to pick one's way between the sketching-stools."
Orwell must be your idol...or idle? I wonder if Alice B.Toklas was one of those corduroy breeched lesbians?
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