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RE: Picado and hand size.
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Mark2
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From: San Francisco
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RE: Picado and hand size. (in reply to Grisha)
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I can't discount your experience since your picado is so good, but when listening to recordings and seeing top artists like Paco and Vicente, it's pretty clear there is a reaction in the audience when a player does a fast solid picado that is also musically relevant. My opinion is that it remains the most anticipated technique and the most appreciated, but only when it's surrounded by good music played by a good musician. I agree it's often overused and becomes less effective. Would you say that playing fast lines with a pick has the same musical value as with fingers? Maybe it's just guitar players, but for me fast lines with a pick are done all the time by thousands of players, some more musical than others, but picado has a different sound and that makes a huge difference to me. quote:
ORIGINAL: Grisha You can draw parallels between musical performance and human narration. Would you like every actor to speak clearly with beautiful voice and great diction at all times? Also, I would like to say a couple of words about picado... I think it only matters to guitarists and is solely appreciated by them. To the general public melodies, harmonies and dynamics are way more important, and rasgueado, alzapua, tremolo and such usually impress the audience way more. I can't stand many of contemporary recordings that overuse picado. If these picado monsters use it for effect, then it would be much more effective to only use it once or twice in a piece, as a climax. And why should all flamenco players use index and middle fingers to play picado? You use picado as a musical line or rhythmical figure, right? Then why not use 3 fingers to play it? I say, if you can get the same sound as with 2 fingers... go for it! There is no cheating when you put music above technique.
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Date Feb. 19 2014 20:36:48
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Mark2
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RE: Picado and hand size. (in reply to Miguel de Maria)
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Hey Miguel, no doubt guitarists are impressed by the things they themselves can't do, or can't do as well. I remember seeing Larry Carlton at his peak and between songs he ran some scales very fast. There was an audible reaction, and he said "You guys just want to see me practice!" But as they say "Recordings don't lie" Listen to Paco live at the teatro de real. Monster picado and you hear the crowd react. I'm assuming it's not JUST guitar players who love picado done well. Same at the concerts I've been to of Paco and Vicente. But, I have to admit I've never actually asked a non player which parts of the program they liked the most. I suppose it could be just the guitarists reacting to the monster picados, but I don't think so. quote:
ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria Mark, when I saw Grisha play here in Tempe, I sat next to the "A-list" gigger guitarist here in town. When G came out, he said "let's hear some im!" Several times he said, not quietly, "His picado is like a woman's ass, I never get tired of it." He didn't seem to notice or care that a lady and her two pre-teen daughters were sitting directly in front of us. The audience was used to standard CG fare and they enjoyed G as a breath of fresh air. I heard some lady marvel that G made music fun. I don't know if they liked his picado or rasgueado more. Speaking as a picado-geek, it was definitely the most impressive picado performance I have witnessed live and was a thrill!
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Date Feb. 19 2014 21:03:06
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