Jaleo Palmas

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Kalo

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Jaleo Palmas

Hi All,

I am still learning like others on this forum and hopefully this isn't a stupid question..

I purchased Doctor Compas and notice there is Jaleo Palmas on there.

Can someone shed some light on what Jaleo is and what palos can be played with it.

I've seen you tube where one foro member uses it for a solea...

Thanks,

Kalo

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BarkellWH

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RE: Jaleo Palmas (in reply to Kalo)

quote:

Can someone shed some light on what Jaleo is...?

"Jaleo" refers to the shouts of encouragement directed at the performers. It stems from the verb "jalear," meaning to cheer on or to encourage.

Cheers,

Bill

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2013 17:09:22

changue

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RE: Jaleo Palmas (in reply to BarkellWH)

The previous commentator is absolutely right. But the Jaleo is also a palo. I can't tell you much about it but if you go to Extremadura you'll probably find someone who can!

Good luck.

Changue

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Ricardo

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RE: Jaleo Palmas (in reply to Kalo)

Bulerias extremeños is also called "jaleos". Really it is just a different melody and chords than other standard bulerias. If you see Norman's site he has one solea called "jerez anonomous" ... that is the melody of jaleos. When it comes to dance there is a different soniquete (groove) than normal bulerias. The closest example I have from a famous guitar recording is Paco de Lucia's "Almoraima"....when you here him doing scratch rhythm on muted strings, that is the jaleo soniquete, a little faster than prefered.

In the cante accomp thread there is an example of Ramon el Portugues singing jaleo and I gave an example of the jaleo soniquete and accompaniment that is typical. A few posts down:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=124692&mpage=3&p=2&tmode=1&smode=1&key=

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 13 2013 19:42:24

tele

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RE: Jaleo Palmas (in reply to Ricardo)

Paco de lucia's "Ole" song has been described as jaleos instead of bulerias in some places.

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mark indigo

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RE: Jaleo Palmas (in reply to tele)

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Paco de lucia's "Ole" song has been described as jaleos instead of bulerias in some places.

yes, mostly those places being the back of the record sleeve, back of the cd case, cd case insert, etc. etc.

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Ricardo

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RE: Jaleo Palmas (in reply to tele)

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ORIGINAL: tele

Paco de lucia's "Ole" song has been described as jaleos instead of bulerias in some places.

He plays several of those falsetas and those of "almoraima" mixed together in "bulerias". The melodic groove part of the bass line in that piece "ole" makes a nice Jaleo feel (da da DA..... uh dada dada DA.... ), and the muted strum in Almoraima, but clearly the music is quite similar and is often mixed together. The different "soniquete" is very subtle but important.

Also I just remembered with that "ole" track he is making deliberate head nod to a piece recorded by Carmen Amaya and Sabicas.
Ricardo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 14 2013 19:39:01