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aeolus

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RE: how hard is too hard? (in reply to Erik van Goch) 
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The funny thing is i actually witnessed it as an outsider because at those moments it wasn't me playing the guitar but "someone else".


Once upon a time I attempted to use Salvia divinorum out of curiosity forgetting I have a allergy to grass and as the stuff is derived from a sage grass grown in the Sierra Mazateca of Mexico my experiment was cut short by a violent reaction during which I was in a disassociated state somewhat like you describe. I think you live in Holland if I am not mistaken so you would be ideally situated in attempting to summon the alien with such plant life. If not you might try the trance music of the Jilala as recorded by Paul Bowles in 1965 in the most remote parts of Morocco.
I find just a few minutes of it here to be mildly upsetting. Put it into a loop and listen for an hour to summon Le Baphomet.

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Erik van Goch

 

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RE: how hard is too hard? (in reply to aeolus) 
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ORIGINAL: aeolus

from Eric

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The funny thing is i actually witnessed it as an outsider because at those moments it wasn't me playing the guitar but "someone else".


Once upon a time I attempted to use Salvia divinorum out of curiosity forgetting I have a allergy to grass and as the stuff is derived from a sage grass grown in the Sierra Mazateca of Mexico my experiment was cut short by a violent reaction during which I was in a disassociated state somewhat like you describe. I think you live in Holland if I am not mistaken so you would be ideally situated in attempting to summon the alien with such plant life.

Free MP3 download: 07 [Untitled Track].mp3


It's funny you call it a "disassociated state" because never ever in my life i was more associated as in those encounters :-). True, my brain did not have direct access to my hands anymore but it didn't need so because they were in the capable hands of a much larger power than a simple human brain. At those moments i felt united with the power of the universe, enjoying unlimited power and unlimited artistic freedom. The spirit that embraced me allowed me to play my guitar with pure energy straight from my mind into the guitar without having to translate it first to my hands. As a matter of fact my hands seemed to get there input at the same moment and possibly from the same source as my brain did and it was evident that my hands responded way better to that unknown source then to my (at time time) extremely well trained nerve system. I guess the moments my hands started to wander in different directions as my brain were moments my ego started to become an annoyance. Most fortunately the spirit ignored it because time after time it surprised me with way better alternatives then the ones i had in mind. So if you know a plant or record that can unite me with this unlimited power source again (for seconds or minutes or preferably for ever) i'm willing to try, but personally i'm afraid it takes 40 hours of extreme focus to meet/deserve these encounters again.
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aeolus

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RE: how hard is too hard? (in reply to aeolus) 
What was happening to me was the left side of my body was in deep shock while my brain was uncaring as it seemed to me what happened to my body was of no consequence In those brief moments when I let go of self doubt there was no sense of separation. I have never heard of a musician who said he had similar experiences to yours. Bowles said he only smoked kif (hemp leaves) when he had a writers block. He had a powerful imagination that he primed by traveling extensively in the primitive societies he wrote about, suffering no little discomfort. The only way to determine if you can replicate your experiences with drugs or trance music is by trying it.
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