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Ricardo
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 RE: prohibited recording of class (in reply to davidheis_24)
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its essential to record the teacher,
It is not actually. I am proof. I have very little video footage of things I have learned from teachers, nor audio. Sometimes it is not always about stealing as you say. For example, if I show you something at a class, I hope you LEARN it and retain and can play it back to me. If I sit and play for two hours and you record it and don't show me you got anything, that is fine too, but it is rare that students that are so crazy about recording vs actually playing something in a class, develop quickly . They usually take their sweet time learning. The best students learn the thing properly right there in class, then go and record THEMSELVES...that works very well.
Anyway, having said that, I don't see there should be a big deal about recordings, however, as students, the maestra or maestro should be respected, they have their reasons and that should be that. Other wise, if you feel you have the "right" as a student, then you also have the right to not take the class.
Ricardo
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Date Aug. 6 2013 2:43:59
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Ricardo
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From: Washington DC
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RE: prohibited recording of class (in reply to davidheis_24)
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but then you dont pick up the passion or nuances of how it could be danced
Well why not? I mean why did the student not get that immediately? I can understand the need for the entire choreography to be retained perhaps the recording is helpful, but pellizco needs to be grabbed instantly like when some one is speaking to you about an important subject. But I know students are all different and at different levels. Could be years later a review of the material and bam the detail they missed jumps out, etc etc. I am just trying to say the teacher is hoping the students are getting those things much sooner than later. In fact, i go further to say that choreography as a whole, is no good anyway, it's only about the details you mention, the little things, the student should be retaining and with those small pieces create their own thing.
An example. Most students come back from spain "look at my alegrias I learned, accompany me..." and they dance it A-Z. Now that part lmnop....well, they don't do it exactly right and don't seem to care much either as they are so proud to get to Z somehow. Well...what I mean is if they had ONLY got LMNOP mastered perfect and tight and expressive, they could have done SO much with it, and really expressed something and even been creative with that little part, that little element. Forget all the rest. A different student perhaps might focus just on the EFGH part and really do their thing with it, etc. But most students just don't see it that way, it's a shame, and look at the results world wide.
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otherwise id have not retained much, and definitely couldnt play back and record myself playing the falsetas as it was just too advanced
I used to feel the same way. IN fact the first time I went to spain. I recorded it all, and even took it upon myself to transcribe stuff on paper to see it all clearly. I realized very quickly how inefficient that method was, and how little I retained or learned that was useful. I changed my approach completely, the next year just my guitar and my focus on learning right away, and got SO much more out of the experience. I think dancers should do the same exact thing. I know everyone is different, but in a way too I am saying there is a method behind the madness, as counter intuitive it might seem at first. THey are not all trying to be A holes, they thing there is something important about it. Put the recording devices away, stop worrying about retaining things, and start just learning and doing it. It really is THAT simple.
Ricardo
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Date Aug. 6 2013 15:05:33
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