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chester

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Being an artist.

I think this picture sums it up pretty well:

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KMMI77

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

Man this guy is a fake. Who can afford to rent such a large room with 12ft ceilings?

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Ruphus

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

The message ( idea) might be a tad too pushing ( while I am usually not much better at it than that, as you might see with the example of a steel sculpture below. - pretty graphic, innit)

, but the proficiency definitly is wonderful.

Whether with the twilight of the back wall and the hung jacket or leaned pictures, the lively tension in the guy´s sitting body, the great recognition of his shape, and not at last that piece of floor in the forground.

This is to the last brush exactly how a worn out / stained floor looks like.

Love the skills!

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PS:
Look at his trouser legs. See how he appears to have put on a second pair underneath, for the coldness of his studio.
That´s what I´d call detail!

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tele

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to KMMI77)

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Man this guy is a fake. Who can afford to rent such a large room with 12ft ceilings?

Its under a bridge

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

It sums it up... "artists are crazy." Dovetails nicely with some of Stephens contentions.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 15:09:08

Leñador

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

Does it ever bug you guys when actors call themselves artists?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 16:09:49

Ruphus

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

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Dovetails nicely with some of Stephens contentions.

In that arbitrary junk makes for vast of art markets capital depositting I guess, with that misapprehension of artistry having many talents stunted in ways presented in the painting above.

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

If you like that kind of stuff look at N.C. Wyeth and Norman Rockwell, they are both artist illustrators you may like.

I remember being in China in art school and seeing all the young painters who were doing politicically correct social realism. They used devices like these.

You might also like the trompe l' oeil tradition in American art, Harnett, John Peto:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tfaoi.com/am/16am/16am97.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tfaoi.com/aa/2aa/2aa500.htm&usg=__ELzYSI_s8_ANsUronfmWQXMpfEk=&h=478&w=400&sz=26&hl=en&start=2&sig2=C2Oq9BWSVW4XTtXVCHDoZA&zoom=1&tbnid=3oTmxgCeg0G6nM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=108&ei=-wJfUe36KoKMigL66oHQDQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Damerican%2Btrompe%2Bl%2527oeil%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Den%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&sa=X&ved=0CDAQrQMwAQ

But is you like conceptual switcherroos Magritte is fun...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 17:10:08

estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

If you want dry unsentimental realism Antonio Lopez Garcia the Spanish painter:

http://www.google.com/search?q=antonio+lopez+garcia&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&ei=6ANfUfTuC-3siwKcn4HYDA&start=20&sa=N

For conceptual tricks you don't have to go any more forward in time than Velasquez; he painted Las Hilanderas in the 17th century complete with catchy conceptual twist. He painted the spinning wheels in motions as a blur instead of a stationary wheel. That should be comforting for the reactionaries in the crowd.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 17:20:29

estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

Or maybe for a change some Bernd and Hilla Becker with your coffee ~ all easy listening stuff:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 17:30:05

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

A little Morandi is always nice.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 19:54:45

estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

And some Diebenkorn from time to time:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 19:56:11

estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

A couple of Bonnard's with hot Southern French light...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 20:04:23

estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

The ferocity of light in a tranquil scene.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 20:05:37

estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

Then maybe take in a few sizzling Rothko's

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

One that broods.

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

Another wheel to go with Las Hilanderas so we know what spokes look like.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 20:13:50

Leñador

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

I don't understand the Rothko stuff, what exactly should we be admiring?
(not being a smart ass, would really like to be edumacated)

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

And my favorite, just flat out elegance.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 20:16:12

estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

Of course this is all capitalist trash, so be forewarned and avert your activist socialist minds.

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chester

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to Leñador)

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ORIGINAL: Lenador

I don't understand the Rothko stuff, what exactly should we be admiring?
(not being a smart ass, would really like to be edumacated)

It's a painting. Look at the colors, the contrast between them, the lines. Take your time...

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Does it ever bug you guys when actors call themselves artists?

Yes it bothers me at least as much as when guitarists do it.

The artist's name is Teun Hocks btw. You can see more of his stuff here.

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

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I don't understand the Rothko stuff, what exactly should we be admiring?
(not being a smart ass, would really like to be edumacated)

That's why I backed two Bonnard paintings before two Rothkos. Bonnards color and light describes a wall, a sky, a blind, Rothko's is your guess. It just exists as color and light.

Rothkos light and color are disembodied from a form you recognize, and it changes as you look. When you see a good Rothko it's like looking at a sunset. It's like a sunset has no solid form, these pictures are lighting each persons interior light.

But then again not everyone cares for Rothko, some times I feel them as really heavy.

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Leñador

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

Okay, I think I see, it's a combination of specific contrasts and colors that should evoke some sort of emotion no? That sunset metaphor helps........

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

Here is another guy named Richard Diebenkorn, very famous California artist. This gives the idea of the scale of the next painting.

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

The idea was about the light in his Ocean Park studio in Santa Monica. The same way Rothko painted light and evoked things Diebenkorn does the same thing. His pictures are open and full of bright Los Angeles coast light. He works with structure in the painting to organize the big panels of light.

In real life this painting is about 7 feet by 8 feet. It is painted with thin washes of luminous color layer by layer.

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

He got to this place by flattening landscape paintings. Eventually if you keep flattening you get shallow space full of light and you can invent your forms and lines. Like jazz.

This pictures is a suburban city scape, you can see images of houses, but he is getting flatter. You see where the big expansive Ocean park paintings come from?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 22:10:47

Leñador

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

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His pictures are open and full of bright Los Angeles coast light.

That one does evoke an emotion for me, that does feel very much like Santa Monica just from the shades of light/color. I'll actually be driving down Ocean Park to get home in about an hour.........

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estebanana

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RE: Being an artist. (in reply to chester)

Prior to the city scape which is more geometric, he did this organic landscapes. They were done up North in Berkeley and look like the light of the bay area and the forms are taken form landscape of the hills in Oakland and Berkeley. Again he plays with and invents forms like a jazz player. For these painters it was a matter os mastering realism so they could break it apart and play around inventing forms and light.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2013 22:16:38

estebanana

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That one does evoke an emotion for me, that does feel very much like Santa Monica just from the shades of light/color. I'll actually be driving down Ocean Park to get home in about an hour.........

If you ever go to the LA museums they will have a Dibenkorn or two out to see in person.

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