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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to tele

Here's my 2 cents worth for a glue pot. I found an electric kettle at a local thrift shop for $3. Then I found a candy thermometer at Target on sale for $4. Use it the same as you see here. It's about $100 cheaper or so.
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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to Wayne Brown

For a one off situation take a tin can and nest it inside another tin can. Like a small tomato can inside a bigger bean can, poke a nail through the top of the small can and hang it in the bigger can.

Make your glue in the small can and then put some water in the large can and hang the small can in the water in the large can. Put the two cans in a pan of water and heat the water on the stove. Put the heat on low, as soon as the glue melts turn the heat as low as possible but still keeping the glue liquid.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to estebanana

Ah. You mean the 'bain marie' method(e).
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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to Wayne Brown

Or you can put the glue in baggie with no oxygen and cook it for 24 hours and then serve it with eggs cooked the same way.

My sister is a chef and she learned from Jose Andres that guy with the Spanish cooking show. Jose Andres learned from Ferran Adria, the El Bulli guy. My sister says Ferran likes to eat at a fish place where an old dude cooks the fish on a grill and puts a pinch of salt on it. She thinks molecular gastronomy is a crock o' bull, adding "Oh yeah that was some stuff we thought up 20 years ago or more to get from one place to another and now everyone has finally caught up. But they think it is a revolution to market and don't understand why it was done in the first place."

So I'm going to her house today to have corned beef that she corned herself.

And Yuko and I went to dinner last light at an izakaya in Oakland and had the uni, meh. Compared to the uni we had last month with Richard Jernigan it was nothing. It may well have been Conde' orange coloring in some spelt flour mixed with gum arabic and foamed into a fluffy uni texture. For all I know.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to estebanana

Yep, simple is best as in many things. Maybe they gave you street urchin?
Thanks for the tip btw, gonna try that.
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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to El Burdo

I was just kidding about the glue eggs, but they did use gelatin to do some strange things with the food foams.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to estebanana

Phew! Though I am not going to prepare my hide glue sous-vide as I cleave to the old ways.
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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to estebanana

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And Yuko and I went to dinner last light at an izakaya in Oakland and had the uni, meh. Compared to the uni we had last month with Richard Jernigan it was nothing. It may well have been Conde' orange coloring in some spelt flour mixed with gum arabic and foamed into a fluffy uni texture. For all I know.

Uni is great if you like things that smell like ammonia but if I could afford it I'd eat Albacore, stiped bass or Yellow Tail tuna (Hamachi) sashimi every day.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to Wayne Brown

Sorry John gotta disagree with you on that. If uni smells like ammonia, it's bad. Fresh fresh uni is not smelly. We had Kanpachi, young yellow tail. In Japanese there are three words for yellowtail depending in how old it is.

When I lived in Micronesia we had tuna sashmi for lunch in our bentos. You could see them pull the tuna off the dock in the morning and eat it three hours later for lunch....Joy lunch was rice or corn, sashimi, fried reef fish and funny lettuce salad with thousand island dressing.

One thing I wished I had tried was the Japanese Char sashimi, but we picked ika and okra tempura instead and at this izakaya even though it's in Oakland the tempura is world class. It's not an expensive place either, it's called b-dama, some of best Japanese food in the bay area.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to Wayne Brown

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For a one off situation take a tin can and nest it inside another tin can. Like a small tomato can inside a bigger bean can, poke a nail through the top of the small can and hang it in the bigger can.

Make your glue in the small can and then put some water in the large can and hang the small can in the water in the large can. Put the two cans in a pan of water and heat the water on the stove. Put the heat on low, as soon as the glue melts turn the heat as low as possible but still keeping the glue liquid.


From Stephen's early days, riding the rails and heating up hide glue



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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to estebanana

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Sorry John gotta disagree with you on that. If uni smells like ammonia, it's bad. Fresh fresh uni is not smelly. We had Kanpachi, young yellow tail. In Japanese there are three words for yellowtail depending in how old it is.


I sat next to an uni fanatic who was savoring it mightily and I still found the smell unpleasant. This was in Okinawa at a very high class establishment. I suspect it's like asparagas with the unpleasant aroma when one relieves himself...some people can't smell it. But as they say...once you get past the smell you've got it licked .

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to estebanana

Thanks. I will try to do what I can. BTW I suppose its best to fill the screw holes just before filling the cracks?

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to Wayne Brown

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I sat next to an uni fanatic who was savoring it mightily and I still found the smell unpleasant.


Some people don't have the taste receptors to like cilantro. If you lack these receptors cilantro apprantly tastes like dish soap. If you have them cilantro tastes good. Maybe you have some chemcal thing about uni, but I'm here to tell you fresh properly prepared uni certainly does not smell like ammonia. Not even close. Uni has a more fresh sea smell when it is fresh, it's like Goose barnacles, Percebes in Spanish. If it smelled bad, it was bad. That is kind a of rule in sushi, if it smells and you notice the smell, bad fish.


Some people simply don't like uni....and that is good in my opinion because there is more for me!!!

However that striped bass is underrated, only I worry about eating it around here because the water in the Bay has to high a mercury content.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to estebanana

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Some people don't have the taste receptors to like cilantro. If you lack these receptors cilantro apprantly tastes like dish soap. If you have them cilantro tastes good. Maybe you have some chemcal thing about uni, but I'm here to tell you fresh properly prepared uni certainly does not smell like ammonia. Not even close. Uni has a more fresh sea smell when it is fresh, it's like Goose barnacles, Percebes in Spanish. If it smelled bad, it was bad. That is kind a of rule in sushi, if it smells and you notice the smell, bad fish.


Some people simply don't like uni....and that is good in my opinion because there is more for me!!!

However that striped bass is underrated, only I worry about eating it around here because the water in the Bay has to high a mercury content.

I'll take your word for it Stephan. I'm one of those people who can't stand cilantro because is tastes like soap. The striped bass around here come from the southern Oregon coast so I presume they're as safe as any other fish. We get our Albacore, salmon and Ling Cod right off the fishing boat since I'm too much of a pantywaist to risk going into the open ocean to fish plus I discovered early on that a boat is a hole in the water that you throw money into. Even when the fish is absolutely fresh fileted skinless and frozen in vacuum bags it still gets fishy tasting this time of year but it's still better than store bought.

This is way off topic so I suppose it's best to drop the sushi discussion even though it's been my favorite food for many years. Enjoy your uni, I wish I could.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to Wayne Brown

I always think off topic threads get interesting and if the orginal question gets answered well no harm done.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to estebanana

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I always think off topic threads get interesting and if the orginal question gets answered well no harm done.

agreed, besides sushi is more interesting than crack

BTW, I didnt quite understand this one:

" Like a small tomato can inside a bigger bean can, poke a nail through the top of the small can and hang it in the bigger can. "

Why would it be necessary to poke a nail through?

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to Wayne Brown

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" Like a small tomato can inside a bigger bean can, poke a nail through the top of the small can and hang it in the bigger can. "

Why would it be necessary to poke a nail through?


It just help suspend the small can in the larger one so it does not touch metal to metal. The idea is to melt the glue in a water bath, not metal to heating element.


Also: Tuna.

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quote:

" Like a small tomato can inside a bigger bean can, poke a nail through the top of the small can and hang it in the bigger can. "

Why would it be necessary to poke a nail through?


It just help suspend the small can in the larger one so it does not touch metal to metal. The idea is to melt the glue in a water bath, not metal to heating element.


Also: Tuna.



Sorry I cant figure it out. Do you mean poking a nail through the bottom of the can as shouldnt the top be open so I can pour the glue into it? thanks

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Sorry I cant figure it out. Do you mean poking a nail through the bottom of the can as shouldnt the top be open so I can pour the glue into it? thanks


Did you get this sorted out yet?

I tried to find a can and poke a nail through it and take a picture of it, but I don't have any bean cans. Then I thought to make a drawing with magic marker and scan it, but I can never find a godddammned pencil in this hell hole shop let alone a marker.
Then I thought I have work to do and I'm not your damn dad and I don't have to cut your meat for you. Shhheeeeeezzzzus.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to estebanana

Vale.

I have received the tuners and I noticed that the rollers have some play in them which is probably normal (I mean in direction when moving the roller from saddle to the top of headstock) and the holes are drilled so that when pushing the rollers into the holes they need to be bent(the play) slightly to go in. Is this a problem and what any tips on solution?

Also the screws are sized so that they are 5mm and the headstock is 7mm thick where the screws go, is this sufficient?

thanks

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Vale.

I have received the tuners and I noticed that the rollers have some play in them which is probably normal (I mean in direction when moving the roller from saddle to the top of headstock) and the holes are drilled so that when pushing the rollers into the holes they need to be bent(the play) slightly to go in. Is this a problem and what any tips on solution?


Play in the rollers is normal but you shouldn't have to bend the tuners for the rollers to go into the holes as this could result in binding.

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Vale.

I have received the tuners and I noticed that the rollers have some play in them which is probably normal (I mean in direction when moving the roller from saddle to the top of headstock) and the holes are drilled so that when pushing the rollers into the holes they need to be bent(the play) slightly to go in. Is this a problem and what any tips on solution?


Play in the rollers is normal but you shouldn't have to bend the tuners for the rollers to go into the holes as this could result in binding.



OK what would be the suggested repair if the hole doesnt match properly? Will some sandpaper do the trick?

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to Wayne Brown

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You can slightly enlarge the outer holes. This should do the trick.

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OK what would be the suggested repair if the hole doesnt match properly? Will some sandpaper do the trick?

I hope Ander's suggestion works for you. Binding tuners can be a real pain to fix. I've used a Dremel type tool with little sanding cylinders to reallign and enlarge the holes with some success. You can also use the correct size drill bit and carefully enlarge the holes or reallign them by moving it in an orbit or side to side as needed. If you try this do it by hand rather than in a power drill since the power drill can get away from you and do damage. It can be a very time consuming and frustrating project.

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RE: Headstock cracks from tuner scre... (in reply to Wayne Brown

For this job I use a batery driven drill with a slow gear
The bit is a round 8mm rod with 100 grit sandpaper glued on. I would call it a homemade machine heads honing bit. (maybe we can have stewmac sell a copy for 57,-$(without sandpaper and glue))
Its quiet, cheap and works well.

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