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bule_b

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Identify this wood

Can any luthiers identify the back and sides

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Jim Kirby

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

Very pretty! Osage?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2013 12:34:43

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

How does it smell? I often trust my nose more than my eyes.
Sometimes you can get local cypress which is very dark.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2013 13:24:28

jshelton5040

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

How does it smell? I often trust my nose more than my eyes.
Sometimes you can get local cypress which is very dark.

I agree with Anders could be dark cypress. I have some Pao Ferro that looks very similar as well.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2013 14:39:37

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

look at this one. This is a relatively dark cypress (it can be darker), which has been polished with the clearest of shellacks.
Imagine this with a yellowish french polish and some 20 years old, which always darkens cypress.
There´s something in the grain that says cypress, but if it is cypress, your nose will tell you.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2013 16:10:13

keith

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

i concur with anders' sniff test. cypress has a wonderful and distinct aroma.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2013 22:50:12

estebanana

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

This is why artificial looking orange guitars give me the heebie geebies. This is what those over bearing finishes of forced color are trying to emulate. A very well oxidized old mellow golden brown which only time can give you.

Beautiful guitar.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2013 23:35:44

Sean

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

Cypress

Damn pretty too

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2013 2:11:13

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

very few sets of cypress will age to this color. Most will be a LOT paler. This is truly an exeption. I was lucky to find some dark cypress from a tree in Cadiz province, because i looked around in the 3rd grade sets. They were all to small, so a wide centerpiece was necesary

I make orange guitars because I have clients requesting orange guitars. I also kind of like them, but I prefer the color of this guitar. But I would like to see a neutral color of this instrument, there are very different white balance in the photos. 2 are very orange and 1 is very brown. So its kinda difficult to know what reality is.

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TANúñez

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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How does it smell? I often trust my nose more than my eyes.
Sometimes you can get local cypress which is very dark.

This is true however, if I was not a builder myself, smelling would not help me as I would not be familiar with the scents of various woods other than probably cypress.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2013 12:10:27

TANúñez

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

I've used Monterey Cypress that looked a lot like that. Monterey is often darker than Med. Cypress

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2013 12:12:54

aarongreen

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

The middle shot makes me think of what was going around as Santos rosewood or one of other heavy rosewoods from Brazilian that is not D.Nigra. Does anyone remember Fullman's rosewood (Eugene Fullman, I think I have that name right)

I have a board that looks something like that, with the pale heartwood and reddish brown color. It's heavy and kind of waxy.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2013 12:13:36

Ricardo

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to estebanana)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

This is why artificial looking orange guitars give me the heebie geebies. This is what those over bearing finishes of forced color are trying to emulate. A very well oxidized old mellow golden brown which only time can give you.

Beautiful guitar.

No, tomatoes are cool flamenco foods, it's a cool color.

Anyway, this guitar back and sides is clearly brazillian tulipwood. Cypress?? pffff

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2013 15:35:14

estebanana

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to Ricardo)

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No, tomatoes are cool flamenco foods, it's a cool color.

Anyway, this guitar back and sides is clearly brazillian tulipwood. Cypress?? pffff

Uggh.....Lorca wrote verde yo te queiro verde...

Verde que te quiero verde.
Verde viento. Verdes ramas.
El barco sobre la mar
y el caballo en la montaña.

You clearly need a GREEN guitar Ricardo to be flamenco. See even the horse is green.

The red tomatoes are for guiri roosters to strut around with.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2013 19:41:52

Sean

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

No its not Brazilian tulip wood, Pau Rosa; it's too closed grain. The back, braces and sides all of Tulipwood, would make that guitar a tank; I'm betting it isn't that heavy.
It's dark Cypress, similar to what some are selling and calling Cypress Violetta.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2013 20:38:57

bule_b

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

A friend sniffed it and said it smells like cypress, so I believe dark cypress or cypress violeta is correct.

Guitar weighs 2.8 lbs, so very light. Alot of that is the machine tuners.

I never knew cypress could age and oxidize like that!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 8 2013 3:35:30

aarongreen

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RE: Identify this wood (in reply to bule_b)

Now that I think of it, I once bought some Monterey cypress that was quite dark, as in yellowish brown and very stiff, as in almost like maple. Neither attribute is something I would normally associate with Monterey but there you go

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