Frightened me to death

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clevblue

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Frightened me to death

I found this reading a classical forum, scared the sh** out of me!

""Because any Flamenco guitarist has to know how to dance (the guitarist has the best moves in any Flamenco fin de fiesta). Of course, delcamp is a classical guitar forum; somebody there would say that, especially one who hasn't been in the battlefront of a real Flamenco cuadro....""

Blimey, I've got two left feet, I've no chance with flamenco then lol

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Leñador

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to clevblue)

You mean your guitar didn't come with zapatos???

Just kidding, it's more or less bullsh, if you want to accompany you do need to know dance but you don't need to be able to execute it. Just being able to identify things is enough.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2012 0:12:20

val

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to clevblue)

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Because any Flamenco guitarist has to know how to dance

This is true ....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2012 0:17:14

mark indigo

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to val)

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Because any Flamenco guitarist has to know how to dance

not necessarily dance like a dancer, but get up and do something, and in compas

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2012 19:18:42

Leñador

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to clevblue)

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This is true ...

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not necessarily dance like a dancer, but get up and do something, and in compas

Why is this a must? Why isn't it enough to just know how to properly identify the moves? Someone in a wheelchair can't be a great accompanist?

If dancing well and playing well have a correlation I can't wait to see Ricardo's zapateado!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2012 20:16:30

mark indigo

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to Leñador)

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Why is this a must?

not saying it's a must, i was just quoting the original in responding to it....

and not saying someone can't be a good accompanist if they in a wheel chair....

but sometimes it's good for a laugh!

seriously though, one of my teachers was telling me about hanging out with a flamenco family group and he was told everyone got up and did their turn in bulerias - he said you just had to get up and have a go

he was also saying the best way to learn to accompany song was learn to sing, even if it was just to hum melodies, and more or less the same thing with dance, at least that learning a bit of dance would help with compas and with those times when it was socially expected

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2012 21:54:08

val

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to clevblue)

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get up and do something, and in compas

Learn a few bulerias moves and maybe a bit of rumba - nothing special.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2012 22:09:53

Leñador

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to clevblue)

Yeah, I'm not opposed at all, have been considering taking a couple lessons from the teacher I play for just to try and see what it's like from the perspective of a dancer. Certainly can't hurt my accompanying, and I can afford to drop a couple pounds

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2012 22:11:23

mark indigo

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to Leñador)

i've seen lots of people do funny/silly things, not real "baile" but just larking about, i saw a vid ages ago of a whole bunch of people taking turns in bulerias, and one of the ketama guys got up and hopped around taking his shoe off and threw it over his shoulder... all in perfect compas

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2012 22:25:39

Leñador

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to clevblue)

Moraito dancing at some point in this vid

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2012 22:28:11

Pimientito

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RE: Frightened me to death (in reply to Leñador)

Even Gerardo dancing

I think that quote you got was to scare classical players away from rasgueos. Most artists from flamenco families grow up knowing a bit of dance, cante and toque. As a guitarist you need to understand the rhythm in the footwork and how it relates to the compas but you dont need to actually be able to perform it yourself.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 24 2012 11:52:05