anotyher unrelated question capricho

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rickm

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Joined: Jan. 23 2004

anotyher unrelated question capricho

anyone know the correct speed for metronome setting for capricho arabe? my classical teacher says 60, but it seems a little slow., (unless he is just wanting me to practice slowly)

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Doitsujin

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Joined: Apr. 10 2005

RE: anotyher unrelated question capricho (in reply to rickm)

In the headline of classical partituras are allways a discription for the speed.
The classical players often use words for the speed, not bpm. Words like Andante,Allegretto,Molto Allegro and so on. Andante means for example 50-72bpm. Andantino is a little slower than Andante but sometimes a little faster than Adagio. Adagio is 40-55bpm. So...60bpm is ok. But the original version of capricho arabe is a upper senior level of difficulty. When you dont play an easyer version, you must be skilled in classical guitar. Than you should know the theory..

www.eythorsson.com/music/1026.pdf

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:tLnpAnF8irEJ:www.finalemusic.com/forum/default.aspx%3Ff%3D5%26m%3D87269%26p%3D1%26ord%3Dd+andantino+speed+bpm&hl=en&client=opera

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Miguel de Maria

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From: Phoenix, AZ

RE: anotyher unrelated question capricho (in reply to rickm)

I have that piece normally recorded around 80 bpm, or slow Andante. That being said, it normally speeds up on the fast scales (to make them more impressive). This is a very hard piece to play correctly, especially that ascending chromatic scale. This piece is even harder than Recuerdos.

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rickm

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Joined: Jan. 23 2004

RE: anotyher unrelated question capricho (in reply to rickm)

I thank both of you. I am deficient, I do admit in that the dots on the paper dont mean a lot to me and that handicaps me greatly. I'm sure I will never be a terrrific classical player because of this lack of ability to read music. That is why I am so grateful for this forum to be able to pose questions and problems. My classical teacher is great but like a lot of very skilled artists can only answer so much (or wants to) a lot depends on his mood at the time. He is a hell of a player but not always a great teacher. And yes, like recuerdos (aha you remember me Miguel) I like the challenge of the piece and it gives me a test of left hand fluidity, which of course recurerdos challenges the right. Both are probably way above my ilk but I do enjoy them so. A friend at the gym asked me why i bench press as it is a useless exercise and I replied because it makes me happy. As I mentioned before, recuerdos is for a friend, capricho makes me happy. thanks again.

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rickm

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RE: anotyher unrelated question capricho (in reply to rickm)

reply #2 as an aside, I find some of the flamenco things harder to play, I wish I could write it out here, but like the series of pulloffs based on the f chord familiar to solea, like 1-3 1-3
2-4-0 pull off pull off etc. If no one gets this I'll try scanning it in, but those are nightmarese to pull off (ha ha ) effectively. I can do pulloffs pretty well without leaving the ring finger down on the d string, but when I try it while fingering the chord it is like slur slur slur, so to each his own I guess.

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Skai

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Joined: Sep. 12 2004

RE: anotyher unrelated question capricho (in reply to rickm)

Those are the same 2 pieces that I enjoy playing alot, not very well I must say. The notes aren't exactly hard for Capricho, making it sound decent is hard, and making it sound good is a test of your technique and musicality. There has to be a reason why it's one of the ABRSM Grade 8 performance pieces.

I've problems with sight reading higher positions too, partly due to the fact that flamenco took a considerable amount of time away from classical. In fact I feel that flamenco causes you to play certain classical pieces rather 'flamenco'. I now use lots of thumb rest strokes, like in Villa-Lobos' Prelude No.1. My tone and scales runs also lean towards flamenco.

Anyway, good luck with both pieces. I'm trying very very hard to improve too!

Cheers,
Cheston

PS. I'm now playing Recuerdos with piam fingering, thanks to flamenco piami tremolo..