Flamenco era - 1950-1960

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Flamencito

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Joined: Oct. 31 2012
From: The Netherlands

Flamenco era - 1950-1960

Discovering flamenco is something I really enjoy. I'm sure there is still lots of things to discover.

Let's see how interesting a tread might become if we post examples of Flamenco from a specific time-frame into a specific thread.

So for this one:

Expamles of Flamenco between 1950 - 1960

Include a resourse to be able to listen directly!

Links to the other 'flamenco era threads'

1910 - 1930 http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=216031&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

1930 - 1940 http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=216027&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

1940 - 1950 http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=216022&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

1950 - 1960 http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=216005&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

1960 - 1970 http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=216021&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

1970 - 1980 http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=216023&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

1980 - 1990 http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=216026&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

1990 - 2000 http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=216029&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

2000 - 2010 http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=216030&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 22 2012 16:33:46

kudo

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to Flamencito)

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Flamencito

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to kudo)

Greaaaat... that exactly what i was hoping for. Something I didn't know yet, but catches me directly!

Thanks

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 22 2012 19:28:46

Erik van Goch

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to Flamencito)

At that period of time some of the refugees of Spanish civil war who had left Spain to settle in (and tour)(South) America from the became huge stars. Parts of their adventures predate the period mentioned above (it starts in the 30ties) but are still very much entangled with who they became to be in the 50ties. Mario Escudero, Sabicas and Carmen Amaya changed the face of Flamenco forever. Sabicas was the PDL of his time (his Amarican made record "Flamenco Puro" became the flamenco sensation of the 50ties) and Carmen enjoying herself on stage.......well, she often made hurricane Cathrina look like child play.

Carmen did perform in American made movies:

and live on stage in various settings:

It brought her to al parts of the wold:

Flamenco has an open ear for new ideas and people like Carmen, Sabicas, Mario Escudereo and Paco de Lucia discovered, explored and adapted many new exciting rhythms/melodies during their south american travels. In Cuba it happened to the Guajira and in Colombia it happened to the Colombianas

Needles to say the new material sooner or later was molded to flamenco idioms. A very interesting example of how these songs and rhythms were spiced with flamenco elements is the lovely Rumba enclosed in this wonderful Jazz intermezo (again showing Carmens travels and deeds). The rumba is accompanied on the guitar in a style resembling the rumba gitana. The melody however is still very much south South American.

My father professionally played music like previous rumba in the netherlands in this period of time, performing 6 hours a day, 363 days a year over a 10-plus year period. He worked with many different kind of artists including lots of flamenco performers. His dutch story is told here:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=215938&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=&tmode=&smode=&s=#216014

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 22 2012 20:27:41

Flamencito

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to Erik van Goch)

I fell in love with Carmen Amaya a short while ago.. Her sound... no words for it to explain

http://youtu.be/GP3Gho5qe4Y

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 22 2012 20:30:58

henrym3483

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to Flamencito)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 22 2012 21:41:32

Ramon Amira

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to Flamencito)

quote:

I fell in love with Carmen Amaya a short while ago

So did Sabicas - a long while ago.

Ramon

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 22 2012 22:11:57

Erik van Goch

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to Ramon Amira)

Yes...they were quite a (love) pair :-)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 22 2012 22:18:34

bursche

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to Erik van Goch)

When I saw this I thought joé flamenco todavía es

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 22 2012 22:47:16

granjuanillo

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to bursche)

La Repompa de Malaga, who died very young in 1959 was a major influence on modern flamenco. Her tangos are famous, but check out this bulerias - the melody is covered by Camaron on Vivire' (Tres luceros). I'm pretty sure he is sining about Repompa when he talks about "since you left ..." "Gitanita tan buena y tan guapa, ay gitanita si estuvieras aqui" She was a big influence on La Susi as well.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 27 2012 3:46:33

britguy

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to Flamencito)

quote:

Expamles of Flamenco between 1950 - 1960

Include a resourse to be able to listen directly!

I have some old vinyl recordings from the 50's and 60's. Including the original Hispanovox collection "Anthology of Cante Flamenco" that I bought in 1958.

But unfortunatley I have no means of transferring them to audio files to load on this site.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 28 2012 13:40:53

Flamencito

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to kudo)

Hey Kudo listening again to your post... Love it even more since i recently had some lessons for seguiriyas :)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 29 2012 3:25:39

Flamencito

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RE: Flamenco era - 1950-1960 (in reply to Flamencito)

Vincente Gomez, recorded in the 50's

http://youtu.be/DLUxHEJ4kPM

Why don't my youtube videos embed in the post? Really can't figure out how to do that...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 29 2012 15:02:49