Gerundino String Spread

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El Polaco

Posts: 155
Joined: Sep. 29 2005
From: Singer Island - Florida

Gerundino String Spread

Gerundinos string spread at the saddle seems to be closer than normal (ie. sltrings closer together). If I am not imagining it, has he always had the same string spread?
The strings also seem like they are closer together at the nut even though the nut is 54mm.
I am considering buying one next month and was wondering if it will be a pain switching between the Gerundino and my other main guitar - a nice hand picked Conde negra from Felipe V.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 29 2005 18:52:24

gerundino63

Posts: 1746
Joined: Jul. 11 2003
From: The Netherlands

RE: Gerundino String Spread (in reply to El Polaco)

my Gerundino has a string spread from 8.5 mm.
at the nut.
And 11.5 at the saddle

I think it is normal, my Bellido has the same.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 29 2005 20:56:34

El Polaco

Posts: 155
Joined: Sep. 29 2005
From: Singer Island - Florida

RE: Gerundino String Spread (in reply to El Polaco)

What is the total spread from 1st to 6th to avoid multiplying a tiny error for each string. My Conde is 45.5 at nut and 58.5 at saddle. What is your Gerundino?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 29 2005 23:50:00

gerundino63

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Joined: Jul. 11 2003
From: The Netherlands

RE: Gerundino String Spread (in reply to El Polaco)

mine Gerundino is 44 mm at the nut and 61mm at the saddle

The Bellido is exactly the same!
Never knew it!
haha

Peter

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 30 2005 6:40:32

El Polaco

Posts: 155
Joined: Sep. 29 2005
From: Singer Island - Florida

RE: Gerundino String Spread (in reply to El Polaco)

Interesting! I will have to ask the seller to measue the Gerundino for me as it is about 800km away from where I live.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 30 2005 12:37:40

Ricardo

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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: Gerundino String Spread (in reply to El Polaco)

Man don't base your guitar purshase on the string spacing at the nut!!!! You can change it for a wider spaced one so easily!! There are plenty of factors to weigh that are more important and unchangeable, for example...the SOUND.

Ricardo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 1 2005 20:15:47

El Polaco

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Joined: Sep. 29 2005
From: Singer Island - Florida

RE: Gerundino String Spread (in reply to El Polaco)

I love the tone of the guitar but the string spacing at the saddle is the problem not the nut.
It is 53mm apparently according the sellers measurements which is pretty narrow!
I do want to play it not just look at it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 1 2005 20:26:03

Ron.M

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Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Scotland

RE: Gerundino String Spread (in reply to Ricardo)

I agree Ricardo,
I personally have never taken any measurements of a guitar.
I don't think that's necessary....If the luthier who made it thought it should be like that, then who am I to say it's not?
Just play the damned thing.
If I am so pernickerty as to assume my technique and playing style is so sensitive, that I need just the exact guitar to suit my fantastic and very sensitive style... (and not lack of technique)
Then I would think I'm living in a Fool's Paradise frankly!

So many discussions of guitars, makers, strings....
Paco de Lucia's own guitar will not make you sound any better than you do.

There is a two-step to this IMO.
1.The Technique
2.The Guitar

The "dry", "percussive" tone you hear from a good Flamenco guitar is a combination of these two elements IMO.

A great Flamenco guitar will not make you sound más Flamenco unless you hit it just right.

If you hit a great Classical guitar just right, it won't sound Flamenco...

It's a marriage between the two IMO.

cheers

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 1 2005 20:56:56

Escribano

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Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy

RE: Gerundino String Spread (in reply to Ron.M)

quote:

It's a marriage between the two IMO.

Yes, but the strings can still be too close together. If you notice it, it could hinder.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 1 2005 21:47:17

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RE: Gerundino String Spread (in reply to El Polaco)

A string spacing at the bridge at the saddle of around 58 mm is considered standard. The string spacing at the bridge is something I personally feel a lot. A difference of 2mm is another guitar for me. Nut width and stringspacing at the nut I personally dont feel so much. There are other factors involved in this, like the thickness and the shape of the neck.

I agree with Ron in that a lot of players are way to concerned about the technical issues of the guitar. But there are some which are very important. The action and the string height above the soundboard are extremely important issues. The stringspacing at the bridge not so much but it does change the feel and if you play more than 1 guitar it will be an issue for most.

I will strongly advice people to stay close to the standars unless they have VERY big hands. The spanish guitar is already very big compared to steel string acoustics and electrics and you dont really gain anything (unless you have VERY big hands)
I played a 60mm saddle 54mm nut for a while and it was very big.....

Un saludo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 2 2005 7:43:04