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mark indigo
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RE: Foot tapping while playing (in reply to tele)
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It really is difficult for me(a flamenco newb) to pay attention to the beats and I really need some practice... That's why I really need at least a foot to keep me up with the beats. What would be a good method to learn to play with compas properly? Practice tips would be welcome... I guess one basic method would be to learn some basic flamenco songs(starting with soleares for example) and play them with flamenco compas(such as flamenco master) many times and later on move to foot tapping. there are lots of things you can do, and lots of people will have different recommendations, often they will be telling you what has worked for them, so it will be worth a try, even if it doesn't work so well for you there are a lot of vids on youtube, as well as stuff available to buy, so if you want to know what tapping pattern you should be doing for what palo, watch a whole bunch and see what the guitarist does play along with a metronome and tap your foot with the beats or accents or pulse or whatever patterns you pick up go back to the videos and watch and listen to the palmas, and learn those patterns too, then you can practise palmas along with cd's, mp3's etc. This will really help your timing and sense of compas all these things are often recommended by teachers (ie. they are not any kind of original ideas of my own!) i learnt to tap the 1,2, 4,5, 7,8, 10,11 pattern for bulerias mentioned above almost by accident. I thought it would be impossible for me to learn to tap this with my foot and play at the same time. I got a programmable metronome for general use (turns out i hardly use it anymore, but it was good for this story!), i programmed it to that pattern, and practised bulerias along to it. Before long i was tapping my foot along with the metronome without hardly realising it. if you don't have a programmable metronome and you want to experiment like this, you can get a normal tick, tick metronome and record yourself playing palmas along to it, the 1,2 4,5 pattern, or whatever. You get to practise the palmas to a metronome, and then you have a rhythm track to practise playing guitar to! This also is something recommended to me by several teachers
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Date Sep. 18 2012 11:51:21
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dararith
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From: Oakland, CA
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RE: Foot tapping while playing (in reply to Erik van Goch)
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It depends on the speed and the context. When i study a new falseta at a slow speed i tap all the beats (or even half beats) and later on (when it's in my system) i go with the flow. The basic idea is not to get lost so at slow speed i might ad some extra taps for orientation and on high speed i go with the flow of the melody. I do exactly what Erik does here. It works for me. quote:
It really is difficult for me(a flamenco newb) to pay attention to the beats and I really need some practice... That's why I really need at least a foot to keep me up with the beats. What would be a good method to learn to play with compas properly? Practice tips would be welcome... I guess one basic method would be to learn some basic flamenco songs(starting with soleares for example) and play them with flamenco compas(such as flamenco master) many times and later on move to foot tapping. What skyrocketed my learning was just to listen to the music WITHOUT even touching the guitar. When I drive to work, I just turn up my music, and tap my foot to the beats...and when I'm at home, I do palmas. When I'm comfortable just tapping my foot or doing palmas, I then pick up my guitar and try to play basic compas OVER the music playing in the back. Heh, it makes me feel like I'm a student playing with a master! I like doing it this way since I can hear basic compas even when the music is doing crazy falsetas...but I guess it depends on what you listen to...I primarily listen to cante since there's a lot of compas that goes on, and short falsetas in between, so playing over this is easier and fun for me to do than guitar solos. This also has the hidden effect of intuitively getting a feel for cante accompaniment since you can hear how/when the guitar changes chords with the singer WHILE keeping the compas driving. In general, foot tapping is supposed to help you keep compas. For me, I like regular interval beats (12-2-4-6-8-10 for bulerias, or all the beats in solea) because it helps me physically measure out the time. Sometimes I don't tap my foot since I just groove with the music physically (bob my head to the beat, move my body -- much like some of the Morao family). Whether it's foot tapping, or moving your head, or even blinking your eyes to the beat...whatever helps you feel out the compas is important, because the guitarist gotta hold compas rock solid...you may come up with your own unorthodox method.
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Date Sep. 18 2012 13:05:19
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