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RE: So what is the mythology about Sherry Brenner?
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C. Vega
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 RE: So what is the mythology about S... (in reply to a_arnold)
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Tony,
What you're seeing in those stores are outsourced student model guitars that are made for Ramirez in fairly large numbers by a few different Spanish factories. No Chinese stuff at Ramirez...at least not yet.
They have a range of what they refer to as estudio, conservatorio and semi-professional models, R, NE (formerly the E series), SP, FL along with a few specialty models.
They are not made in the Ramirez workshop but are supposedly checked over and adjusted by them.
They're all shown on the Ramirez website.
I'm assuming that the "weak parody" of the Ramirez headstock design you refer to is the one used for the R series student models. Actually, this design is very close to the one used way back when by Jose Ramirez I for his best guitars.
The "real" Ramirez workshop currently produces a grand total of about 140 high end classical and flamenco guitars annually with six or seven workers. In their peak years during the late 1960s and 1970s they made 1000+ instruments in some years but the demand was higher (Segovia was still alive and playing a Ramirez) and they had a lot more employees back then.
The current instruments are very well made but the Ramirez name just doesn't have the cache it once did with professional and high-level players. They do vary from one example to the next as they always have with some being really good and others perhaps less so. Most knowledgeable people familiar with the current operation feel that they still produce fine instruments but with prices ranging from about $13,000 to over $25,000 many feel that they are rather overpriced. Not everything made during Jose III's time at the helm was great either.
Ramirez has always sold outsourced student guitars. Invoices still exist from the early years of the last century for instruments made for Jose I by factories like Julve in Valencia.
Practically every guitar shop in Spain today sells them. Some, like Ramirez, have them made to their specs whereas others just sell relabeled standard production models with perhaps some cosmetic changes like a different headstock crest or rosette patterns if the order is large enough. Although they aren't shown on their website, Ramirez also sells some of these relabeled guitars in their retail shop in Madrid.
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