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Richard Jernigan
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Joined: Jan. 20 2004
From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: finishing inside the guitar (in reply to Ruphus)
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ORIGINAL: Ruphus Though thinking to know a little bit about acoustics, my thoughts were meant as suggestion to see what gives. If you have either reason to conclude that smooth surfaces do not equal certain properties with reflection, or that sound waves bouncing inside the corpus would be irrelevant to the overall sound of a guitar, you could explain why and help us all with educating. Ruphus It is generally agreed that the upper limit of human hearing is around 20 KHz = 20,000 cycles/second. The velocity of sound in air at standard temperature and pressure is about 342 meters/second. Thus the shortest wavelength of audible sound is a little over 1.7 cm. Experience with electronic and acoustic signals teaches that path length differences of less than about 1/20 wavelength have little effect on distortion or amplitude of reflected signals. Thus the interior of a guitar would have to have a surface roughness on the order of 1.7/20 cm to alter the loudness of the reflection of the highest audible frequencies. That is, a surface roughness of about 9/10 mm. I have never seen a decently made guitar this rough on the inside. Just varnishing it would not smooth out roughness of this magnitude. Furthermore, the output of a flamenco guitar has very little power at frequencies anywhere near 20 KHz. And humans living in civilized areas suffer hearing loss at the higher frequencies, beginning by age 20 or so. (I have been told by my brother, a distinguished physician, and by a Fellow of the American Academy of Audiology that people living in quiet places like the Amazon jungle retain hearing acuity at high frequencies into old age.) A 43-year career as engineer and physicist taught me very firmly that speculation is nearly useless, except to suggest areas for investigation, and calculation is not to be trusted without experimental verification. So I side with the luthiers who say experience is not only the best teacher, it is the only one. RNJ
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