Putting a rosette together

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estebanana

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Putting a rosette together

My helper took these I thought there were cool. Here I'm putting the lines in a routed channel in the top. Not so much about technique as the are about process and practice. I put this one together pretty fast to show him how to do it. Next few days he's going to do his first one. It will probably be better than mine.

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estebanana

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

Unruly wood strips!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2011 2:34:23

estebanana

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

Sorted out before putting them in the channel. The center blonde wood will be pulled out of the channel after the glue dries. They have been waxed with bees wax so they will not adhere to the channel. After you pull them out it leaves a swath in the center of the rosette and then you set each tile in the new channel you created by removing the waxed dummy lines. The waxed lines are a place holder for the tiles.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2011 2:37:55

estebanana

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

Cutting them with a chisel at the end of the channel.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2011 2:41:41

estebanana

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

The lines in the channel. I made those blue marker lines on the blonde lines to show which I will pull out. Those are the waxed lines.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2011 2:43:28

estebanana

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

A rosette. I skipped ahead to the finished rosette because I was by myself when I dropped the tiles in. I'll do another in a few days and show that part of the procedure.

There are several ways to make rosettes, I like this way because it's very improvisational. You can spend a lot of time planning a rosette and make it very precise and formal or you can do them faster and more off the cuff like this one. I do them both ways and sometimes I like the less formal results better. It's like the difference between a big fussed over painting and a small tossed off oil sketch, each one has a presence and beauty of it own.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2011 2:50:13

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

Looks nice. I did one rosette with dummy lines like that and it didn't go very well. The channel was a "nice tight fit", which after the glue hit everything became slightly beyond tight. So I aborted and widened the channel slightly, cut new veneer, etc.
I like to rout a channel just for the tile, inlay those, and then rout channels either side for the other decorations. I'll even rout into the tile ever so slightly to round off the outside edge.
I assume you dye your own veneer to get some of those nice greens? What dye do you use?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2011 4:09:07

HemeolaMan

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

so all this talk of pulling out and waxed blondes...what does it all come down to? if you pull them out too slow will it make a mess?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 28 2011 4:02:45

estebanana

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

whoa......I only used the wax on the Brazilian guitars.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 28 2011 4:05:00

estebanana

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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The channel was a "nice tight fit", which after the glue hit everything became slightly beyond tight. So I aborted and widened the channel slightly, cut new veneer, etc.

You mean it became too tight for the size tiles you made ahead of time?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 28 2011 21:11:38

ralexander

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

Nice, loving the green (my fav color) - the moths are neat, too - reminds me of a character from that space invaders game - someone talked about using some of those for rosettes here a while back (kozz maybe?).

Loving the pics - keep em coming

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 29 2011 12:57:04

chinito

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RE: Putting a rosette together (in reply to estebanana)

Thanks for posting this Stephen! I've heard brief descriptions of the waxed line technique but wasn't sure it was as straightforward as it seemed.

My only questions are in regards to the application of the wax:

Do you pull each line over a lump of beeswax or melt the wax and apply it?

Also, do you have to have any issues with wax residue interfering with the glue when the tiles are set in? Wax resist is the main point of concern I had with how this technique works.

Thanks again!
-Jake.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 9 2011 4:18:28