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odinz
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From: Sarpsborg,Norway
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RE: Shoulder pain (in reply to Pawo)
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Hey, im not a pro, and younger than you but i can say some things that i think are pretty important. First one is before playing, warming up is a good idea, it is like when you practice martial arts or any physical activity, warm up and stretch a bit, it helps to make your muscles ready for activity, remember to do this slowly and carefull, so you dont strain yourself too much. Second thing is general physical activity, and especially when you come over a age of 40 i think this is very important so that you dont clog up. I think swimming, martial arts or yoga are good activities because it makes you flexible. The most important thing is posture and the way you hold your hands, for example if you put your thumb around the neck of the guitar, your reach will dimminish and cause strain when barring for example. How do you hold your guitar? Also after i started doing some weight lifting(not too heavy) I noticed i got even stronger and it was easier to play well, i just bought a couple of these manual weights and do a couple of reps on a weight that isnt very heavy, i have a problem in my left side muscles strenght and this helped alot. Also maybe you can try stretching out after you are done, it will make you more ready for the next time. I hope this somehow helps, it did help for me, even though i am only 19, i was in the same situation as you, i have the back of a 70 year old, and have to do this to keep it normal.
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Date Jun. 18 2011 10:17:36
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odinz
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RE: Shoulder pain (in reply to Pawo)
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Well the thing with the weights is that you use your muscles for something else, but i am not sure about how much you use them, but guitar aches can also come from doing the same thing for too long, as with so many things. The thing with position that i found was, buy a chair that can regulate height or a bar chair(one of those round ones, because when i sat in a cosy chair, sofa or a low chair i sit in a really bad position, but it is of course prefferences and getting used to it and all. What is right for me, might not be right for you. One thing i learned in classical guitar was to just be lose in the left shoulder and elbow, and let it all feel like it is hanging from the hand, if that makes any sense And of course not squeeze too hard with the thumb, even when i bar, my thumb is almost not pushing in at all, just enough to have a grip. I think someone more experienced than me will give you alot better advice, but i think it is worth it to analyze everything you do. Good luck, and i hope it doesnt last long for you, if you get inflammations, go see a doctor
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Date Jun. 18 2011 11:48:15
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Ruphus
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RE: Shoulder pain (in reply to Pawo)
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Hello Pawo, Here a couple of points that could have to do with your pain: One of the typical problems guitarists seem to face are inbalances in the shoulder and neck area. What increases the frettings arms tensioning is the circumstance that often times with barre both, push against the fretboard and counter from behind the neck are being excerted. Should you find yourself executing barre in such a way, you might try to change technique. The power for the initial fingers fretting of barre should not be provided by an i-finger / thumb clamp, but by a pull from fretting sides ellbow and shoulder, while the counter being provided through plucking sides ellbow, which will resist the necks lever through pressure against the corpus upper bout. Practise barre with the thumb off the neck. Another frequent problem results from players watching their fretting hand. The constant wrench of player´s neck can result in muscular strain / inbalance and consequent issues. Keeping the head straight and getting used to playing "blindly" helps. In regard of lower back problems, the best advice is to play standing. Walking around while playing is even better. Just don´t use a strap for ergonomics sake. For acute release of the lower back, accupressure at the pubic bone is indicated, but detailed introduction into how-to-do should be provided first. Yoga crocodile exercise ( nakara asana ) really helps a lot against blocked back; prohylactically as well as therapeutically. The simple version ( foot on foot, foot on upper leg, legs bended, bended legs up ) will do. It takes ~ 10 minutes per day. Really worth it. Ruphus
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Date Jun. 18 2011 11:49:11
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odinz
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Hope to get this sorted...if I live to old age would be nice to still be able to play and to serenade my wife in our retirement Im sure you will sort this out, this stuff is done by experimentation, what hurts and tires you, and what doesnt, I hold my guitar at a slight angle, simmilar to sabicas, but a bit lower, sometimes i cross my leg sometimes i dont, same goes for foot support thingy. I bet your wife must appreciate that kind of treatment, luxuary
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Date Jun. 18 2011 15:15:48
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