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odinz
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From: Sarpsborg,Norway
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 RE: I need help, from anyone really. (in reply to Anders Eliasson)
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Dress code in Spain is very free. Just wear something please.
Granada is full off hippies, punks, scumbacks, alcoholics, drugadicts etc, so your piercings etc, wont be noticed very much.
Feels odd to say i am relieved Anders 
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Wow!
Can you draw your pension at age 20 in Norway?
Statoil must be doing better than I'd thought..
Hey Ron, I think statoil is going well! but it is actually a "disabled pensions" or whatever you would say in english 
And i am 19, not 20 
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Thats a good wage over here. Your money will go a long way.
100 a month on guitar lessons and strings.
500 rent on a studio appartment
100 Mobile phone bills (Phone calls are criminally expensive in Spain)
20 euros day food, drink, groceries, bus rides, internet = 600 per month
Total 1300 per month
If you dont eat out every night and buy food from the markets you can live on even less. Fruits such as tomatos, avocados, oranges are 1 Euro a kilo right now, A white loaf is 70 cents and a litre of beer is under a Euro. A kilo of Pasta ( 3 good meals) is under 1 Euro. Chicken and fresh fish are also inexpensive but beef and lamb are pricey.
The things that cost money in Spain are electrical goods, computors, heating, electricity, phone calls, petrol, and beaurocracy...you have to pay a tax or charge to get anything done. If you are not running a business and have a income from another country then you can live in relative luxary on very little. If you share an appartment and reduce you bills to 100 week then you can live here easily for under 1000 per month.
Hey Pim that actually sound good to me  .. And that cheap beer, is it any good?
I have trouble actually finding anything fresh here, i went to the groceries store the other day, almost all the tomatoes were half spoiled, the lettuces were getting old too, starting to turn brown, and fish, well here in norway fish is frozen goods now mostly. it irritates the crap out of me, since were supposed to be a fishing country, but we export everything to other places, i have to travel 2,5 hours for a fresh fish market...
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Date Apr. 22 2011 13:34:50
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Kate
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From: Living in Granada, Andalucía
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RE: I need help, from anyone really. (in reply to odinz)
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ORIGINAL: odinz
And that cheap beer, is it any good?
In my opinion Alhambra beer is the best in the world ! There are cheaper beers around but I wouldnt bother.
There are thousands of people here earning and living on only 1,000 euros a month. My friend has a mortgage and a child and manages to live on that.
Fresh fruit and veg, like Pimiento says, are abundant. A crate of strawberries for only 2 euros. In Granada for every beer you buy in a bar you get a tapa, a small but sometimes big plate of food. You'll soon find the best bars for tapas. A Menu del Día, a full course meal offered at mid day, can be had for as little as 6 euros, and often includes a beer and bread.
And with your piercings, you will feel right at home
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Date Apr. 22 2011 14:11:45
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odinz
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From: Sarpsborg,Norway
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RE: I need help, from anyone really. (in reply to Kate)
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sounds good Kate, freshness is nice, and i love a beer in the evening
I hope i can meet some people, of the foro and others, so i can be shown where the good places to eat out, and dring out is and such.
Are there any areas that are better to live in than others for example?
Hey Estevan, thanks alot, i also hope it will be a good time, I have never really traveled anywhere before or anything either, so it will be really exiting, the furthest south ive been is north denmark
So this is like a walkabout for me as well
I definatly will go, so thanks!
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Date Apr. 22 2011 16:50:00
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Ron.M
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From: Scotland
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RE: I need help, from anyone really. (in reply to odinz)
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if you want to Talk like a danish you must have a potato in your throat
(Umm..I think Anders has a second potato stuck somewhere else ATM... )
I'm sure he'll be OK in the long-run though...
I've only been to Denmark once and found it ultra-conservative, with lots of rules and regulations regarding social behaviour.
But, that being said, it was very clean and charming and the people were very nice.
My first encounter with Norway was being flown into Trondheim where I joined a marine seismic exploration team.
In the next 12 months we went from Kristiansand in the South ...all the way up to Hammerfest in the North.
South Norway was a pain....man....all Christian and religious and no drinking and staying at home on a Sunday and saying prayers or reading the Bible.
(Even worse than Scotland in the 60's. )
In a big city like Bergen, (even in the 80's) there was only ONE pub open after 6pm.
When you got there, it was so mobbed, you could hardly get up to the bar.
You could get a drink in a restaurant, but had to buy a meal. (very expensive BTW )
I remember being in a town in South Norway, where there was no bar, but you could go to a Hotel (which didn't have a bar) and go to a room where there were other people and be served a drink there.
They had a fold-down bed attached to the wall, to comply with the local legal requirements of it being a "bedroom".
I didn't know that at first...and thought it was just an "emergency bed" in case someone had consumed too much...and was very civilized and thoughtful Nordic hospitality..
Now the NORTH of Norway was a WHOLE different kettle of fish!
Tromso was FANTASTIC, with pubs and partying going on till the wee hours.
There was a place called "The Cowboy Bar" which had saddles instead of barstools....crazy place...
And then you stagger out into the snow to be greeted by a spectacular display of the Northern Lights!
(Like getting a bonus tab of acid dropped into your beer.. )
If you talk about "Lord of The Rings" landscape, then here you have it.
Great, earthy people too!
(And beautiful girls! )
I wish I could have spent longer in those Northern towns.
As different as Stornoway is from Lockerbie in Scotland IMO.
Loved it in the North!
cheers,
Ron
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Date Apr. 22 2011 18:42:01
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Anders Eliasson
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RE: I need help, from anyone really. (in reply to Pimientito)
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The 20 year old spanish living in Spain get along with 500 - 600€ a month (or less)
Thats because they still live with their mother Anders!
Nope, you´re wrong there. My wifes kids dont live with us and thats what they have. Besides many poorly paid full time jobs dont give more than 6 - 700,-€ a month. Many people in Spain live for very little money.
I´m personally living for around 800,-€ a month. This includes mortgage, everything for the house, landline phone, cell phone, internet, vacations etc. shared with my wife and besides that I have my own car and my own money.
Ok, I dont go out much and I´ve never had a lot of money, so I´m not used to using a lot of money.
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Date Apr. 24 2011 21:48:41
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Anders Eliasson
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RE: I need help, from anyone really. (in reply to odinz)
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Pimiento,
Each and everyone their story. We all have our very different needs.
But some of what you say is not true. The price of petrol today 25/4 2011 is EXACTLY the same as it was summer 2008.... Electricity is higher, but not 40%. Firewood costs 1 cent more a kilo since 8 years.
Here in Spain, there´s a tendency to yell so much about prices, but we are still in a country where I can go to the city and have a beer for 1 euro and where electricity etc. is a lot cheaper than in other countrys
The minimum wage in Spain 2011 is 641,40€ for a full time job (around 4.30€ and hour), a standard pension is about the same or less. Some have to live for that amount of money.
Since my wifes kids are 24 and 25 respectively, I´ve met a lot of youngters around 20 years. Most of them live for something like 5 - 700€ a month in Sevilla which is most expensive city in Andalucia. They hang out together, make botellón, dont call much on the mobile phone. Mostly blind calls and SMS, they never eat on restaurants, no cars etc. They pay 200 - 250,-€ for a room in a shared flat.... It all sounds like pretty much the same lifestyle that I had when I was their age. They are pretty happy with it and so was I. I prefer to jam out in someones home or on the street than in a bar.
If you want to take guitar classes, then you need more money of course. When I take classes, I pay 75,-€ a month for one hour a week and that gives me more than enough to work on for a week and in general I find it to be pretty hard work, so I only take classes a a few month a year.
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