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RE: Another newbie what guitar to ge... (in reply to Skai)
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There's no reason for not buying a Alhambra 7fc flamenco if you like it, and theres no reason to buy a more expensive Alhambra flamenco guitar, because they do not get any better. Look out for one with a reasonably action above the soundboard. Sometimes they tend to be a little high. I've sold some when I worked in a shop. And heres what I think: Pro: Well build and strong, good resale value. OK volume and more or less flamenco sounding. solid woods. It is a flamenco guitar and not a classical with cypress backs and sides. contra. A bit expensive for quality, poor quality Cypress, very thick nitro lacquer. Very neutral and clean sounding guitar without personality and therefor difficult to make it sound "dirty" or flamenco To Henrik. You've complained some times about not sounding 'flamenco' enough. Your guitar is the answer. You can lower the strings etc and make it buzz some more, but it'll never open up like a good flamenco guitar. The construction is simply to conservative with quite thick soundboard and the lacquer is a sound killer. I think you should find another, better guitar, because this one will not let you evolve in playing. It'll not teach you the more suttle playing. Now you have such a high level of playing that you need something better. I would of course be glad to make you a guitar, but I do not write this in order to "catch" a client, but simply because thats what I think. The thing with guitars and other instruments is that the cheap ones only have one sound. that might be pretty, but you'll be very limited and'll never develop a high level tecnique because the guitar'll never teach you that. You wont be able to hear nuance. The Alhambra is better than that, but still far from being an instrument with a lot of different character. A good flamenco guitar should IMHO have a deep percussive sound when you play soleá or similar things without a capo, and should bark, yell and scream when playing bulerías with capo at the third fret. The Alhambra kind of stays in the middle all the time. So my final words are that the Alhambra and similar guitars are good enough to learn and reach a good intermediate level, but if you want to go further, and explore the musical world, the expression, the art and so on, you will need something better. Well, i'm of to work. Anders
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Date Feb. 28 2005 7:45:08
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RE: Another newbie what guitar to ge... (in reply to ernesto)
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Henrik, I've heard you and I've concluded that the 'flamenco' comes from your fingers and not from the guitar.. As for Alhambra's action, I've tried their lowest end flamenco guitar and whoa.. the action's higher than my classical. Thus, the Alhambra 3F is DEFINITELY out. The 7Fc I tried sounded and felt quite decent I must say. I was proven wrong when I tried a Yamaha flamenco guitar from the concert guitar series (it costs about $5000 Singapore dollars, almost 4 times the 7Fc). The sound was crisp! Rasguedos were superbly chopped up and the guitar felt perfect. Nice, small and light, the action and neck was also such an ease to play. Now that guitar is certainly out of the question for me, it's too good and too expensive for me. But I just have to say this, that Yamaha sounded as crunchy as an apple, even though it isn't 'Spanish'!! Just another thought Anders, isn't it unavoidable that cheaper factory made guitars lack personality? So what would be a good factory guitar that has the most personality then? Cheston
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Date Feb. 28 2005 9:04:32
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RE: Another newbie what guitar to ge... (in reply to ernesto)
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Cheston I cannot recommend any factory guitar with personality. Yes, but then it'll be something with the price of the Yamaha you mentioned. There IS a relation between price and quality. The cheapest guitars I know with personality are my own flamenca2A and Veleriano Bernal. Mine have the most for the price. Sorry, I know it sounds like cheapshit publicity, but I actually mean it. If you go for an Alhambra 7fc, make sure there's MAX 9mm between the soundboard and the 6th string. If there's more dont buy, if there's less, its one of the good ones. Ps, good observation on Henriks playing making the sound and not the guitar. Henrik, My cheapest guitar is 1300,- euros with a case. I know how the money situation is in Scandinavia, so I understand. Take it easy, one day you'll play another and better guitar. Besides, I'll send you a mail a bit later today. Anders
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Date Feb. 28 2005 11:16:56
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