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A year of Flamenco study
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beno
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From: Hungary
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RE: A year of Flamenco study (in reply to sean65)
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Hi Sean, at first I made my way through the JM method, also practicing technical things a lot. Then got through another one (Graf-Martinez), but not learned the whole book....played through the whole book, but not learned everything by heart. Then got another one, but mostly just selecting parts that seem to fit my taste ( M. Granados series), and so on, that includes everything from a single falseta to some whole pieces, but I think it's good to get a picture of the whole at first. When somebody already have a picture, and know basic formulas, one can always add new falsetas, variations, more complex things etc... but that's just my way
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Date Dec. 1 2010 7:27:37
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Lucerom
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From: Denver, Colorado
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RE: A year of Flamenco study (in reply to sean65)
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I agree with Christe, "Use as many resources as possible. The problem with most didactic material by themselves is that they are not comprehensive and are targeted to different learning levels (even though they all say they are for the beginning student). Here is a list of recourses that I currently use: 1. Guitarra Flamenca en 48 Clases by Jose Manuel Montoya 2. Flamenco Guitar Method vol1. by Gerhard Graf-Martinez 3. El Arte de la Guitarra Flamenca by Juan Martin 4. Método elemental de guitarra flamenca by Manuel Granados 5. Estudio técnico de la guitarra flamenca. Vol. 1 by Manuel Granados 6. Guitar Fretboard Workbook, by Barrett Tagliarino I use the "Guitarra Flamenca en 48 Clases" series by Jose Manuel Montoya as my principle learning tool because it is well suited for the beginner and contains relevant material. At the same time I use the Gehard Graf-Martinez material to apply and reinforce the technique previously learn in the Montoya lessons. Since the GM material doesn't really teach you a full song and Montoya doesn't teach songs until the final stages of his series, I use Juan Martin's book to build my beginning repertoire. Manuel Granados is good for developing and maintaining technique. Finally, I use the Guitar Fretboard Workbook to learning the fretboard and theory. Most of the material I transcribe using Guitarpro software so I can play in time at a speed that I can keep up with and then I either increase the bpm or use the software's speed trainer function to help me increase my speed. This should keep me busy for the entire new year. Depending on how well I've progressed, the following year I'll either work my way through the Oscar Herrero series, start learning actual songs from transcriptions, or sign-up for Jason Mcguire's lessons. I've attached a snapshot of how I structure my practice using the material mentioned above. Hopefully this at least gives you some ideas of how to approach your studies for the new year. Note: I've used teachers in the past but they are quite expensive, don't seem to be this organized, and you don't have as much control over the material you learn. There are pluses to having a good teacher, especially if you don't have a clue how to approach a technique or song. I opened a fortune cookie once and the fortune read, "Practice is the best teacher". I still have it taped to my music stand. Just make sure you practice correctly.
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Date Dec. 1 2010 14:34:25
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sean65
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Joined: Jan. 4 2010
From: London
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RE: A year of Flamenco study (in reply to mark indigo)
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you're in london, right? There are several teachers, there is a peña, there are dance classes, there was a thread not so long ago about teachers in london, there is Francisco Antonio "Tony" Clinton, Ramon Ruiz, Tito Heredia, Steve Homes.... Thanks Mark, You're absolutely right, you can't beat lessons with a teacher. In spite of all the great advances in multimedia technology you can't beat getting out there and meeting people. I may well make the effort and get booked up for a fortnightly lesson and just use all my other material for extra curricular study. I'm pretty sure it would make my studies more focused, less insular and a lot more enjoyable. Thanks for reminding me of the 'blindingly obvious'.
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Date Dec. 2 2010 6:19:50
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Leendert
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From: WI, USA
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RE: A year of Flamenco study (in reply to Ricardo)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo quote:
How did you know what to play though? I can't find the original thread where this was asked. I requested a falseta to show, someone picked this, and uploaded this video 30 minutes later or so. Luckily I had the Encuentro video and book on hand. I watched the video a few time tapping my foot to get the gist of the timing, when to start and such. The book had the fingering which again I glanced at or played through with guitar in had for the "grips" but careful to not learn any of it without my foot going. The book was in front of me there on the table but honestly just glancing at it was enough to get started. You are watching me literally working it out and memorizing from just that bit of info. The notes sort of added themselves up so long as I stuck to that steady rhythm. So maybe I am above average for getting the "grips" fast, but it would only take a few minutes longer to do this with the book there. Just don't read through the whole falseta over and over or try to "sight read" it. Use the book but just a phrase mastered at a time, keep the foot going. Dont' think 12 beats or any of that, just one beat to the next. The same can be done with the actual video or a slowed down audio, but it can be annoying I think to stop and start each phrase. Thank you for your reply, oh okay...so that does make more sense to me.. As far as you being above average, YEAH! you are! :) You are obviously at a far more advanced level then most of us which I am sure enables you to pick up things way faster plus a lot of fingerings, techniques must sound immediately familiar....You probably can picture most things being played by just listening to it, am I right? I think you are a fantastic guitarist and I hope someday to be able to pick up things that 'easily' and quick too. Thanks for sharing some advice how to practice....I will make sure to implement and try the foot tapping and the other tips you layed out.
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