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Stu

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jose tomas gored!

just read a bit of the bullfighting thread and reminded me taht i saw this on the news the other day.

If you dont like bullfighting then i guess this is one scored for the bulls.... and if you dont really care then its worth a look anyway....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8642637.stm

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Phrygian

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Stu)

Ole! Serves him right i wish the picador could get a sharp horn to the side too.

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Guest

RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Phrygian)

"Ole! Serves him right i wish the picador could get a sharp horn to the side too. "

And if it were your son or your brother? You are a very sad example of a human being.

Seán

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hamia

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Guest)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sean

"Ole! Serves him right i wish the picador could get a sharp horn to the side too. "

And if it were your son or your brother? You are a very sad example of a human being.

Seán

You are a sad example I would say!

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Phrygian

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Guest)

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And if it were your son or your brother?

If my brother or son voluntary would step in to a bullring with an angry bull that had been stuck by spears where the goal was to torment the animal for entertainment and as the grand finale when the creature is exhausted from running side to side kill it with a sword i probably would say it was terrible he got hurt but he had it coming.

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TAKITAKATA

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Phrygian)

Ole !

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Ron.M

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to TAKITAKATA)

I take it all you guys are vegetarians?

If not, have you ever been in a slaughterhouse? Yuk..

Mind you, I saw a very nice film about the black pigs in Spain being reared in the open in the fresh air with fresh acorns to eat and nice comfy, clean accommodation to sleep in. The whole family cared for them, with the children even petting them.
It was wonderful!

Then they had a family gathering and fiesta and four men gently, but firmly grabbed a selected pig while the family watched and held it on it's back, struggling and squealing upon a rustic, country wooden table while another slit it's throat with a knife.
The blood spurted everywhere and they held it while it twitched and bled to death before butchering it for the feast.

A lovely wholesome and natural organic experience indeed for any tree hugger and put me off all these terrible factory slaughterhouses for life!

cheers,

Ron

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Doitsujin

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Stu)

To the topic:

And? Thats part of the job... I guess he knew what could happen when he decided to become a bullfighter. I think its no big deal for him.

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Estevan

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Doitsujin)

quote:

To the topic:

And? Thats part of the job... I guess he knew what could happen when he decided to become a bullfighter. I think its no big deal for him.

That's right - it's about the eighth time he's been nailed by a bull, only this time it was a big deal for the fans as it could have been fatal (femoral artery). Jose Tomas is a big hero amongst the bull-torturing public, and it was the main headline in the Spanish papers when it happened. Every time he gets "horned" he becomes more of a hero. His release from hospital a couple of days ago was the top news item in the 'Culture' section.

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Ailsa

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Stu)

I see there's even an English bullfighter!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8230123.stm

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Doitsujin

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Ailsa)

Well,.... there are dwarf bullfighters as well... I wanna see one fight!

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1118littlebullfighters1118.html

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kovachian

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Stu)

These matadors are some strange people. Maybe it's just me being a wuss, but the thought of a bull's horn sloshing around behind my rib cage and tenderizing a lung, just isn't that appealing. I think I'll try sky diving instead.

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Kate

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to kovachian)

You wanna eat meat you got to be prepared to kill it. We all got soft buying plastic packets of cling filmed flesh !

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Ron.M

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Kate)

quote:

You wanna eat meat you got to be prepared to kill it. We all got soft buying plastic packets of cling filmed flesh !

What's even worse, Kate, is that they went round some Primary schools with a selection of common vegetables..and the kids didn't even know what they were called or how they were grown.

When one kid was asked where chips came from, he said "Asda"..

cheers,

Ron

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minordjango

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Stu)

quote:

Jose Tomas

horned? so his a horn player then ?

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srshea

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Stu)

I just finished up The Sun Also Rises, for the first time since I was a teenager, probably, and this jumped off the page:

"You hear? Muerto. Dead. He's dead. With a horn through him. All for morning fun. Es muy flamenco."

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yohan

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Stu)

If you mess with the bull....

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Ron.M

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to yohan)

Well, it seems there is quite a bit of public distaste for La Corrida (even in Spain), so for those with weaker stomachs could I possibly suggest that Bullfighting should evolve (as Flamenco has) and be brought into the 21st century (with DNA manipulation techniques) by introducing the "Wholly Organic Vegetable Fight", with the Matador challenged to fight a bunch of specially bred Wild Killer Turnips...

(These turnips show no mercy...prepare for the event of your life!...Make no mistake...these Turnips ae BIG....and MEAN!! )

cheers,

Ron

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srshea

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Ron.M)

Ron,

Parsnips are pointier and more closely resemble a bull's horns, so I think that might be a better choice.

Sorry for horning in on your idea.....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 6 2010 10:48:11

Ron.M

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to srshea)

quote:

Parsnips are pointier and more closely resemble a bull's horns

"Point" taken srshea...but then we get into Union difficulties from the Fruit sector with Bananas and Chilli Peppers..

Change is not easy..

cheers,

Ron

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farteindj

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Ron.M)

Well, I guess it's ok if the turnips have had good lives and are eaten afterwards. If the matador dies I think he should be eaten too, otherwise it's just cruelty for its own sake.

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BarkellWH

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to srshea)

SRShea, that's a great line from The Sun Also Rises. For anyone who is into Hemingway and bullfighting, the ultimate is his work, Death in the Afternoon. And a very good book by Hemingway, published posthumously, is The Dangerous Summer. The Dangerous Summer is an account of the 1959 rivalry in the bullring between Antonio Ordonez and Luis Miguel Dominguin. Ordonez was the more accomplished matador, but Dominguin was also good and came out of retirement to meet the younger (and better!) Ordoniz's challenge. Reading these works makes me long for the old Spain, before the tacky developments along the Costa del Sol and the invasion of Americans (of which I am one), Europeans, and everyone else, even if it was under Franco. I suppose there are still remnants of it left here and there.

Cheers,

Bill

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Kate

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RE: jose tomas gored! (in reply to Ron.M)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ron.M
What's even worse, Kate, is that they went round some Primary schools with a selection of common vegetables..and the kids didn't even know what they were called or how they were grown.

When one kid was asked where chips came from, he said "Asda"..

Yeah its tragic, my Godson a city boy was on holiday in Somerset with us and asked why the lambs were in the field. I said because they lived there, and he just kept saying why ? until we confessed up that the sweet baby animals would be eaten. "So that's why Harold does not eat meat " he said and announced he too He would became a vegetarian but it only lasted until the Sunday roast arrived on the dinner table.

Laughed at the idea of 'Veg - fighting" and also reminder to self to re-read Hemingway !

PS Am watching election results Ron - sad news indeed!

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