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Arash
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From: Iran (living in Germany)
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RE: Advice needed, how to polish per... (in reply to gj Michelob)
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i have heard these "glitches" basically from everybody, including all the maestros (even on some pro. CDs from Paco if i remember correctly, there are some of these not perfectly played notes, not to speak of concerts, where there is lot of these "dirty" small parts). nothing to worry about imo, if you don't have these glitches or dirty notes every 2 seconds in your recording and just one, two or 3 of them in the whole piece. no need for the absolute perfection, even in a recording for a CD, imo. but of course you could try to do other takes and if you are lucky, there would be absolutely no glitch. i don't think that there is a special exersise to eliminate such things. i would say if you practice and play your piece more often and again and again, then you reduce the chance for such unclean parts, but not even the top pros. can guaranty that they would never play an unclean note or something. relax gj, what you want is really not necessary and not always possible
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Date Apr. 22 2010 6:29:09
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gj Michelob
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RE: Advice needed, how to polish per... (in reply to Arash)
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i have heard these "glitches" basically from everybody, including all the maestros (even on some pro. CDs from Paco if i remember correctly, there are some of these not perfectly played notes, not to speak of concerts, where there is lot of these "dirty" small parts). nothing to worry about imo, if you don't have these glitches or dirty notes every 2 seconds in your recording and just one, two or 3 of them in the whole piece. no need for the absolute perfection, even in a recording for a CD, imo. but of course you could try to do other takes and if you are lucky, there would be absolutely no glitch. i don't think that there is a special exersise to eliminate such things. i would say if you practice and play your piece more often and again and again, then you reduce the chance for such unclean parts, but not even the top pros. can guaranty that they would never play an unclean note or something. relax gj, what you want is really not necessary and not always possible Yes perhaps I am overly concerned. I practiced that composition ad-nauseam, obviously I would execute it perfectly until the mic is on... then the glitch or glitches would surface. It seems that practicing at a slower tempo reinforces a more precise performance, yet I am not sure it is the answer to this problem. As you write, maybe there is no answer to it. Thank you for your lengthy and comforting reply, Arash.
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Date Apr. 22 2010 6:48:36
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michel
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RE: Advice needed, how to polish per... (in reply to gj Michelob)
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gj this reminds me a bit of my thread about working correctly with instructional books and written music in general. you are analysing the problem in the context of a performance, a context where you try to simply do "the best", i agree with arash (can or should the flamenco guitar be played "perfectly"?) and also with deniz, especially his statement about left hand positions. if you allow me to speak about my own conclusions on this subject: every time i don't play cleanly something and i focus a bit more on the "why" i notice a technical problem, something i simply didn't care of enough, conclusion: let's admit, flamenco guitar is a difficult discipline and i also think there is no exercice to polish the playing. the quality of playing is the amount of 10'000 exercices we already did and will do, maybe we all have those days asking ourselves: still not enough practice, after all these years? grrrr. so i'd like to end with quoting one of my appreciated teachers who told me"imagine flamenco guitar would be as easy as car driving and every dunce would annoy you with his high speed buleria, i'm sure you wouldn't play anymore" flamenco guitar is a stony, rampant and difficult way of self-expression
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Date Apr. 22 2010 7:43:19
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