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Ramón
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I am working with a dancer that debuts this month at The Fountain in LA, and her speed is just amazing - and I am just not that good yet - and she is just going sooooo fast in her subida that my fingers just do NOT move as fast as her feet. It's straight 'strumming' accompaniment (with accents, of course), so it's nothing intricate, and I'm basically just trying to train my index finger to brush up and down lightly, trying 'the claw' as a teacher from Spain I work with showed me (he's out of town).......ANYTHING, but man... I KNOW I am off, but I simply cannot find a technique that allows me that kind of speed to stay with her! Any suggestions to try? Anyone know of a video or youtube where someone is using something simple but quick! I am working on her speed with the Flamenco Master metronome, alegrias, set at 90. HELP!
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Date Apr. 28 2009 7:59:45
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Ramón
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RE: Suggestions or techniques for SU... (in reply to Ramón)
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All techniques I've been trying; any and all fingers, hit it only on accents, etc... I guess it's just practice and practice, but even just flicking my index finger in the air doesn't seem to generate that kind of speed! Maybe I'll just go try 85, 86, 87, 88...etc. Surfing? lol...I first surfed Pipeline at 15, so I learned quickly - to survive. My older brother had 9 years on me, and he was always like' "it's eeeeaaaasy". YARIGHT! Almost drowned a few times. which cracked him up. The secret? From paddling-to-feet in ONE move, and paddle aiming AT the shoulder - not down the face... Just wished I'd started flamenco at the same time... :-(
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Date Apr. 28 2009 9:03:23
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Ramón
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RE: Suggestions or techniques for SU... (in reply to Ramón)
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Thanks to all for the input. I'm taking bits and pieces of it, but I think it's as Florian says; Just start slow and just keep pushing the tempo on the metronome, faster and faster until I find a technique that works at high speed - that doesn't sound 'all the same'. I CAN do palmas up to the '92' (360-ish bpm?), but after that, it's just unreal fast. A big part IS mental; accepting that speed, feeling it as well as hearing it. So I started in at about '80' (300-ish BPM) on the Fl Master metro, and now have it up to 91. I worked it out that I think her subidas are at about 350-360bpm - and it's probably a sustained minute at this compas. The hand falters or the mind wanders at this speed, and Elvis has left the building, baby! It's a LONG alegrias including 2 escobillas... I haven't seen the whole thing, as I've only worked sections of it with her, but I know the piece she is roughly working from, and it's over 12 minutes long. Her name is La Reyes, and she debuts at The Fountain's 'Forever Flamenco' show, in Los Angeles, this May 17th: May 17th: Artistic Director: Antonio Triana Guitarist: Antonio Triana Guitarist: Benjamin Woods Singer: Jesus Montoya Dancers: La Reyes, Vanessa Acosta, Timo Nuñez http://www.fountaintheatre.com/perform.html#Flamenco She'll be working with incredible people. Me? I'm just a student, but I'm honored that she has worked so hard with me to get me up to speed so fast. I love being able to play for her dancing, as her energy is amazing. PS...She's also a great singer, too! Thanks again, everyone :-)
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Date Apr. 28 2009 17:08:37
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Ramón
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RE: Suggestions or techniques for SU... (in reply to Ramón)
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ME IN THE VID'??? Nooooooooooooo...lol Me in this show at The Fountain? Noooooooo...lol.. I'm a student, but I did a show with La Reyes and other very good dancers for a couple months here in San Diego. We just finished 2 weeks ago, but we were called "the best, true flamenco show south of LA (Benjamin Woods told us that!), so I was honored to be the guitarist for this show. La Reyes asked me to play when she was putting this together, and I said that I didn't feel I was ready (I'm just coming up on my 3rd year of flamenco accompaniment, but only 'dabbled' playing solo stuff for a few years before that), but she pushed me to rise to it. Scary...but very rewarding and fun. I REALLY like playing true flamenco - accompaniment. I started FAR too late to aspire to be a great guitarist - but I can be a good accompanist, be a part of something rather than sitting at home - and it's pretty awesome to have an amazing dancer waiting for your fingertips to create for them. :-) My 'real' name is Rand Hogen, basically just a surfer in La Jolla, building guitars, and learning to accompany. Remedios Flores, pure Gitana (who's late husband was an amazing guitarist, Rodrigo Flores): http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=136552&highlight=136566 She also took me under her wing to sing for me and work with me, and she gave me my Gypsy stage name 'El Caña'. Here's a flyer for the show we were doing... Working with Reme' is great because, as a true Gyspy cantaor, she rides in and out of compas, rides notes, makes up letras as she goes, etc. It's a REAL challenge to stay with her, but she encourages me with looks and lots jaleos... Thanks, everyone... Oh! I'm up to 92 on the Flamenco Master!
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